If the rox wait till 10 to do something, they're as dumb as the other teams waiting. Bosh is either going to play with wade or lebron. Amare is going to the other team bosh doesn't go to. Johnson will be 30 and all the other guys will be 33 or older. I think they should offer ron 4yrs 44m then either trade tracy for deng and salmons so the vulls can clear space to vuild around rose or do a sign and trade gor marion using shane and chuck for 4yrs 36m and let tracy's deal expire. Doing either way, the team get deng who's 24, would play great without the ball, great mid range shooter, plus he's in the same age bracket as brooks and landry. Marion gives them another great wing defender, moves well without the ball, great rebounder and finisher and adequate 3pt shooter. Both moves show yao the commitment to winning and keeps the window open.
If you're a young black man, atlanta is 10x better than houston. Plus he left phoenix cause he wanted to be the man. He's the man in atl, plus he's credited with the turn around the franchise. Why would he leave that?
Seems that everyone is jumping on the chance to sign Wade. But for me, if you going to sign a max contract with a player. I would rather choose Brandon Roy over Wade. By no means i'm saying roy is better than wade now. But just think, one is 29 by 2010 entering his 7th season. While the other one have just finished his rookie contract. For a 7 year max deal, would you want a 36 year old wade on his last legs with a contract of >20m? Although his playing his best basketball now, he did have a major surgery not too long ago. I do understand that wade is unrestricted, while roy is restricted. But look at the number of rotation players on Portland that they have to resign. 2009 RESTRICTED Channing Frye 2010 RESTRICTED LaMarcus Aldridge Sergio Rodriguez Brandon Roy UNRESTRICTED Steve Blake Travis Outlaw Joel Przybilla (ETO) I can see large contract increase for a few of them. Say Jerryd Bayless take over the starting spot and Greg Oden finally is injury free by 2010. Thats still 2 player on the starting line-up and 3-4 players that will play major minutes. There is a chance of stealing him.
If ur a single black man, theres more successful black women in atl. There is also more to do on the club scene in atl vs houson. If you didn't see that or know that, you must have stayed inside. Hotlanta is the new Chocolate City and that's a factor with these young black men.
If we go deep into the playoffs and move McGrady this summer, I'm not sure why Artest wouldn't take a deal like that.
These players are millionaires. I do not think women and the party scene matters, unless it is less expensive to stay in one city then another.
Lemme get this straight. You don't want Joe Johnson in 2010 because he'll be 30 that year, but you want Salmons and Marion? Salmons will be 30 this year and Marion will be 31. Johnson's a superior player to either of them. If anything, getting a player of Johnson's calibur would finally get that window open.
I don't think Johnson is a 20m player. If you try to get him, its going to be 20m per for 7 yrs. The 1st 2 yrs will be cool, but at 33-37 its going to a problem. I'm looking at effectiveness plus price. Is johnson better than artest and marion? At 19m, the rox can have Artest and Marion. For 30m they can have Johnsn and Artest. Me personally, and I liked johnson coming out of school and watch a lot of Hawks games, I don't think he's worth it. Plus like I've mentioned before, I don't think he's leaving a team that's custom built for him to come play and be 2nd fiddle. He forced his way out of phoenix for a reason. Out of both my scenerios, I'd probably prefer the deng route because of his age and his contract. When deng contract is up, he'll be 30. When Johnson contract is up, he'll be 36.
What is the thought that players would rather stay in Atlanta and Miami over Houston? Really guys, stop underestimating the city. The Rockets have got plenty of superstars to come here in the past. Wade would come here if our lineup still has the amount of talent it has now and we're able to pay him a max contract. Any FA would be stupid to not want to come here simply because he wants to spend his nights in Miami... really? Players play is worst places than Houston, and last I checked Houston isn't a place players avoid like the plague like people are suggesting. When is the last time we have drafted someone and they requested a trade? That is your answer. Wade would have no problem coming here if it was clear that him coming here would mean contendership and possible championship/s That's silly, all these players are going to want to win and get paid doing it. We offer them a hell of a shot to do that. Dang people act like Houston is Alaska or something.
First off, I know we're not getting Johnson and expressed that earlier in this thread, so I'm not going off on you for something that's not gonna happen. However, Johnson is not getting a 140 million contract as seven year deals are not even permitted under the current CBA. Absolutely no one is putting Johnson on Wade or Lebron's level, so he's not going to get the max like they are. I know Rashard Lewis got a 6yr/120 deal, but we shouldn't work on the assumption that everyone is going to get a deal like that. Morey actually went after Lewis, which was the right move as Lewis would have been a great fit. Johnson would also be a great fit, and I highly doubt he gets paid 20 mil per year. If you even think you can get him, you try. Marion is horrible, btw. He's declining fast, as he's demonstrated this year by stinking on two teams that desperately needed him to do well. I wouldn't even consider him at 9mil/yr. That's such a horrible deal.
Maggette, Monte, and Crawford has all had their problems. I wouldn't want not one of them and would rather lose on a chance at signing Wade or J.Johnson. Our SG needs to play defense, Monte and Crawford...nah, Sjack is way too old...Maggette will not appreciate sitting behind Artest and Battier and will start **** because of it. I'd rather us get Iverson or Marion than those four.
Whether or not it's true, I don't see D-wade leaving the Heat. His team will do what it can to put a winning team around him when 2010 hits.
I dont think he's joking. Some people on this board doesn't understand the concept of market conditions. 1st let me get this straight. Nobody and I mean nobody deserves 10+ Million to play GAME. Back to topic on Artest. He will command and RECEIVE anywhere between 12-15 million a year from several teams. It's just a given considering what he brings to the table. Do I want him for 5 years 30 million? Hell yes but that ain't going to happen and with 3yr 36 Million you will have to throw in a player option for a 4th year because this is the last big contract he's going to get. He's a smart man and knows he needs to milk this last contract for all its worth. My guess if he stays with the Rockets we are going to give him somewhere around 12-13 million yr for 4 years. With a team option for the 5th year.
My thing is, what if they can't? It's very possible that next season Beasley will still not be very good, there is a possibility that J'Oneal is still getting hurt, and there is a possibility that Wade will have to do everything to keep that team afloat again. To me, Beasley is going to have to show Wade he can be a star player if the Heat want to keep Wade in town. Oneal they are not going to get much from him.
