Oh please , you would have done the same thing if you were in his position. And I don't know what you people want from his agent , he is doing everything possible to help his client get more money , I don't see whats wrong with that.
i dont think so, i think they would get any nba player available they can get and if landry doesnt have "european spices" neither does mike harris. you think a euro team wouldnt wanna get a call?
Landry is playing superstar, he avg. 9 ppg, made some dunks, showed some hoops and hey I'm ready to go. This time last year we didn't know who he was, he was a mysterious 34.pick that was signed over Jackie Butler and we all thought that was a mistake. Ok, I respect all that he's really playing stars and that's going to cost him. Another thing is that if he doesn't resign we have Joey Dorsey who is similiar player.
We wouldn't even have this thread if morey would have just given the standard 2nd rd rookie 2 yr deal with the team option for the 3rd. If u thought the guy was so much of a steal, what was so hard about that. Even if the guy sux, u have the guy for 2 yrs cheap.
I will try to compensate. Here we go: Portland No need to give full MLE there and positioning themselves salary wise to acquire a FA with more impact than Landry. Aldrige & Frye & Ike Utah Not enough minutes available. No need to give full MLE there Boozer & Milsap. Denver Dumping salary to minimize Luxury Tax. Doubtful they will spend the full MLE there. Minnesota Not enough minutes available already. No interest. Jefferson & Love & Cardinal LA Lakers Let Ronny Turiaf leave. Interested in Artest, but haven't come up with the logistics of making a trade. Yes, if they could get Carl super cheap, but not full MLE. Gasol & Odom & Vlad & Walton (?) Golden State Signed Turiaf and probably lost their MLE while bobbing around the Salary Cap. Yes, if they could get him super cheap, but not full MLE type of money. LA Clippers Acquired Camby. Went under the Salary Cap this summer, thus no MLE to use. Camby & Thornton & Powell & Thomas Phoenix Suns Grapevine has it that Diaw is available. So perhaps, but they would definitely want to look at the knee before offering. Backup PG is likely a higher priority and they have salary cap concerns. If they have any interest, it would likely be for a low salary. Amare & Diaw Sacramento With the Kings entertaining offers for Ron, pursuing Landry isn't a priority. Not sure if Moore catches some minutes as a PF. Artest & SAR & KT & Williams. Spurs No need or room there. Duncan & Kurt Thomas & Oberto & Bonner & Mahinmi & Toliver Dallas Acquired Diop. No MLE to use New Orleans Signed Posey. No MLE left to use. OKC No room there. Wilcox & Durant & White & Collison & Marshall Memphis Financially conservative. If they could get Carl cheap, but don't see them spending MLE equivalent type of money. Walker & Darko & Warrick & Arthur Atlanta Having players coming off of Rookie scale in the future. Other issues at the ownership level. Likely no interest and not going to be offering equivalent MLE money. Horford & Smith & Williams & Jones Miami No need or interest. Marion & Beasley & Haslem & Lasme Orlando Sent MLE money on Pietrus Lewis & Howard & Battie & Cook & Gortat. Charlotte Okafor situation puts other issues on hold. With as many injury issues the Bobcats have had in recent years, they would want a physical done beforehand. No idea about MLE status and doubt that they would have any significant interest in Carl. Okafor & Davidson & Mohammed & May Washington No need there. Jamison & Blatche & McGee & Songaila & perhaps Thomas. Philly Was able to sign Brand as a FA because they went below the cap. No MLE to use. Brand & Smith & Evans & Speights Toronto No room or need there for a MLE player. Bosh & O'Neal & Bargnani & Humphries New York Spent MLE money on Duhon. Probably trying to streamline the roster and payroll. Zach & Lee & Rose & Jeffries and perhaps Gallinari New Jersey Signed Najeria & Hayes. No need or full MLE for Carl. Boone & Najeria & Anderson & Williams & Jianlian & Swift Boston Need to replace Posey as a 3/4 and that isn't Carl. KG & Powe & Scalabrine & perhaps Davis Bucks Signed Allen & Lue Might have some MLE left, but likely not a significant amount. Probably interest in Carl if cheap. Villanueva & Allen & perhaps Alexander. Pacers No idea on MLE status. McRoberts & Williams & Foster & Murphy Cleveland No idea about MLE status. Doubtful about PF being a need for Cleveland. Wallace & Varejao & Smith & Hickson Chicago Need to sort out the contracts they currently have rather than pursue another player. Thomas & Gooden & Noah & Simmons Detroit Trying to make deals and move some large contracts. Until the dust settle on those things, not spending MLE on Carl. Center and an impact player are more pressing needs for the Pistons. McDyess & Maxiell & Johnson <hr> Baker appears to be bluffing. Interest around the league and/or full MLE offer isn't as readily available as Baker is suggesting to the media. Najera didn't get a full MLE, so the chances of Carl getting it are going to be limited.
and what about that battier for gay trade!! OBVIOUSLY morey has no idea what he is doing... now where is that damn sarcasm button.
Is this guy the same agent that told Bonzi to turn down all that cash from Sacramento? Sure seems like it...Its time to find a new agent, Carl...
i'll say his once again: i hope we get rid of Landry. let him go to urope, Asia, the Dominican Republic or wherever he wants to play - just PLEASE do not let him come back in a Rockets jersey.
If Landry refuses the scope to examine the problematic knee, demands the full MLE or he walks, and uses Europe as the threat... I call the bluff. He can stay here for 2 years @ $2M per with no scope, or 3/$3.5M per if he has a scope that shows the knee is tip-top. If that's not good enough he can leave. I'm not heartbroken if our PF corps loses him. We've got Scola, Hayes, Harris, and Dorsey as alternatives. Overpaying a guy who may end up playing 50 games a year isn't worthwhile. We don't need to be paying lux tax over a guy that could possibly be out a season and a half after microfracture surgery. Evan
The problem with that is he is just being plain unreasonable or making boneheaded moves as far as how the negotiation is handled. I'm sure most of us have no problems with him trying to get Landry the most money. The problem comes from his noncompliance with logical procedures such as having Landry get his knee checked. Why is it illogical? Because the simple fact is that Landry has had a history of knee injuries, and had taken far longer than expected to recover from what was supposed to be a minor bump to the knee, and THEN come back a shell of his former self. If Landry's knee is ok as he claims, why not just get it checked? Or is he trying to sell high on damaged goods? Aside from that, he has repeated made claims that Landry is generating interest around the league. Claims that has resulted so far in...zilch. Zero. Nada. No offer sheets. Bluffing? I guess so. Then, comes the fact that after news broke of several NBA players signing for Euro teams, he conveniently claims that Euro teams are interested in Landry as well! Bluff again? Check. Stupid and amateur as hell? Double check. I rest my case. I don't know if Landry will be back, all I know is, he's not getting full-MLE money, and this whole situation is getting ridiculous. A And that Buddy Baker fails. Epically.
After looking at your list Mango I would say the Lakers and Pacers would be the only teams with any real threat to make Carl an offer. And with LA already not matching Turiaf at only 3.4 mil and supposedly interested in resigning Kwame there is no way the offer the full mle to Landry. The Pacers could use a guy like Landry but again not a full MLE money. And again it is doubtful they would even use their MLE knowing it would be tied up for 10 days and the Rockets have said they have every intention of matching. So it looks like Baker showed the only other card he had left and that was the international one. Before this year such a card would have been called more of a bluff than a real option. But after Childress and others you have to take it seriously. Still the worst case scenario would be he signs with Reckonastich Anbaplayavic abd we still hold his rights while he works on his game and shows his knee to be healthy. Yes we will probably have to pay him more money when he comes back but he will be a proven commodity then. ANd if his knee fails then we will have saved a roster spot and money. Plus Hayes and DOrsey can fill without too much drop off. Also if he goes Leunen stays. So all and all not the worst scenario and not a bad trade off.
I know, but I'm just saying in general-don't expect to much and be prepared for anything. Of course, I personally believe it won't happen because even with our MLE we can still make him an offer better than most European teams could ever hope to give him. Even if some European team does offer him a huge contract to him like Josh Childress, I don't think its in his best interest to go to Europe. He would be a lot better served staying here where he already has so much interest around him. And btw, it was never confirmed that Jennings failed/pass the SAT. The results were scheduled to come in a couple of days after he made the decision, so he couldn't have possibly known.
I don't know Baker but what he is doing seems very logical to me. He doesn't want exploratory surgery for his client because it is possible Landry's knees may be worse than advertised. If I had a client I would never agree to such a thing. Secondly his only real leverage would be to get someone else to show interest in his client. But with possibly only 2 teams have any real interest in his client and not even enough to make offer he has to find other options for his client. Hence the euro connection. It is the right thing to do for his client and what most agents would have done. I guess he could have talked directly with Morey. Saying okay if my client has this exporatory and comes clean what will his contract be. And once a contract is agreed upon go threw with it. But that is a big risk. and again unless I was confident of my clients health I wouldn't do it. As for Morey I also think he is doing what he must. ANd in the end if we lose Landry to Europe it might actually be best. This would be a great way to see if his knee holds up and let him get starters minutes while he is young. If he does well then they can offer him a contract he deserves.
you make a very good point. the advantage to Landry signing overseas as opposed to domestically is that we retain his rights (in Childress' case the Hawks retain his rights for 2 years, so I assume it would be the same situation with Landry). still...Buddy just looks like a crappy poker player to me...suddenly after the Childress fiasco there is interest from Europe now...
Very sound line of reasoning there. That could be the case. Still, it's like you said, he could've done this and could've done that. The bottom line is, our buddy Buddy (sorry for the lousy pun...) could and should have been more professional instead of coming out through the media and play hardball when he isn't even sure what shape Landry's knees are in. Plus it's not like he's doing a good job of playing hardball through the media either. Everyone who bothers to do a little research knows that "a lot of teams are interested in Landry" is merely an exaggeration. At least try to back up the claims, which up till now he still isn't able to. I do agree though, that the best thing that should have been done is if they'd just sat down and negotiated privately on what type of deals the organisation would offer Landry depending on the condition of his knee, instead of staging this impasse through the media.
