It might be that, it might not be that. A similiar story concerning Bynum and the Lakers... http://hoopshype.com/articles/brown_lazenby.htm
any bad news for the fakers is good news for me. although i do feel for the kid, i don`t want anyone getting injured.
i agree with most posts here that landry's agent is a D-bag and is playing stupid games...2nd we all know how much landry's game went downhill after his knee injury, so that dumb agent better stop delaying the physical tests and get that done if landry's knees are like the end of the season...i won't miss him one bit
True, but I think the agent is trying to do his job in making sure his client gets the most...Could that be outside the NBA, I personally don't think so, but stranger things have happened...
Those knees didn't seem to bother him in the playoffs. Off the bench, he dominated Paul Milsap. But I do agree that injury is the one and only issue with Landry. He had to play cautiously at the end of the season so he could save his knees for the playoffs. However, disregarding the injuries, he is a potential all-star caliber talent IMO, so he is for sure worth the signing.
Yea... but Landry has expressed a desire to stay here. We would obviously like him back considering we havn't gone after any of the other MLE candidates so we have the money to pay him. His agent has pulled this type of stuff all season. Yes... he just wants his guy to get the most money possible, but you dont have to pull politics to do so.
Landry's summer league play last year wasnt "bad" or "disappointing", it was pretty much average what you'd expect. So he should have gotten the average 2 year contract treatment. He was playing out of position at center most the time, and Mike Harris just flat out wasnt gonna be denied his chance to shine no matter who the competition was around him. Could understand if Landry averaged 2 pts 2.6 boards on 31% shooting to not want to think long term with him. Given that he was average and the Rockets traded FOR him in the draft, its strange that he'd be treated like a late arriving party crasher, instead of someone who figured into the plans.
1st of all, I don't believe for a minute Landry has gotten serious Europe offers yet (heck, he hasn't gotten serious offers from NBA teams while other RFAs have been targeted, and some landed). All this happened after the Childress bombshell, this agent is just too easy to read. As for the MLE all to Landry. That is a huge risk for a bad long term contract. I might offer the following..... --A one year 4.5 mil contract (uses all but .75 of the MLE, which in turn can be used for Dorsey). (he would still be restricted with EBR after next year) --A 2 year full MLE (nearly 12 mil) with a team option after year one. (we could opt out after year 1, and he would be restricted where we have his early bird rights) --A 2 year 6.5 mil contract with a player option after year one. (we could opt out after year 1, and he would be restricted where we have his early bird rights) --A 3 year 9 mil contract (just under Scolas'). (Could add in a player option on the last year to seal it) --A 4 year 10.5 mil contract (in between Scola and Hayes' $, at Hayes length). (Could add player option to seal it). These deals are on the table for one month (enough time to still consider what is left for the MLE for our rookies or other FA) and Landry can feel free to shop around until then. After one month no assurances the deals are the same.
For those who suggest going over the salary cap, it's not just the dollar for dollar over the cap match that you have to pay that hurts. It's also the fact that you lose your share of the dollars from the over the cap teams that you would get if your team is under the cap. Just an example.. You go over the cap by 5 million. You have to pay a 5 million luxury tax that goes in to a pool of money that is allocated to teams under the cap. Say the pool of money is 75 million and 15 teams are under the cap. Your share of this money would be 5 million. Under this particular scenario, this player that you went over the cap for would cost you 10 million more than his actual salary.
DM said he feels that Carl can play at his pre-injury level for short periods of time but the Rockets are concerned if he can sustain it over a 82 game season.
Do you feel that DM will move away from his bargaining position if Landry does agree to an extensive physical in the event of not getting a contract from anyone else? (I feel that the chance of that is very remote) I know it will depend on the level of damage,but if it's relatively minimal do you think Landry and the Rockets might work something out.
Damn right. Morey's not going to let Landry go for nothing and he's not going to get an offer from Europe that will even make Morey blink. For the first time in seemingly forever we have pf's that don't put us in a terrible disadvantage and people around here expect someone/or some combo to neutralize Kevin, Amare, Tim & Carlos. I guess we shouldn't have traded for T-Mac and offered Tao a max deal. I just can't see any logical reason to fault Morey in this situation.
Like I said before, Morey first planned on signing Landry to a normal rookie contract with part of the MLE (after around $3M for Scola, and whatever they paid for Deke). But then Francis got brought out and called wanting to come back to Houston for less, and Morey ended up spending 1.9-2M for Francis. Since Landry's rights was "brought" from Seattle, we couldn't treat it like a normal rookie signing more like any other free agent signing. After that all that the best the rockets could offer was the league minimum, thus explaining why they paid him so low for a 1 year contract despite spending a lot more to purchase that pick from Seattle.
If Euro teams are going to tie up lots of resources in second-tier players or extremely damaged goods - they're really going to hamstring themselves in a world of finite resources.
Landry's "rookie money" has nothing to do with the MLE. Rather, the MLE can provide a team with an opportunity to sign a second rounder (for whatever reason) for more money than the minimum or to a longer term than the two-year max for minimum salary deals. Actually, the Rockets' acquiring Landry's rights from Seattle has absolutely NOTHING to do with how the Rockets could sign him. He was a second round pick and could be signed to a standard one- or two-year contract, just like any other second round pick by his own team. I appreciate your willingness to contribute to the thread, but please get your facts straight. I'm sure it's just a simple misunderstanding.
It's very strange that Morey didnt lock up Landry for 2 years after the Rockets paid cash and pick to acquire the 2nd round pick for Landry. Morey and Baker argued about the % of guaranteed money in 1st year & 2nd year. Morey was so concerned about the Rockets salaries over LT, it ended up Morey took the option of only 1 year contract with very little guaranteed money and an early deadline to cut Landry. A 2nd round pick's salary in 1st year is 450K & 2nd year is 700K. It's weird that Morey did so little to protect the investment of the Rockets when they paid cash & pick to acquire Landry.
I believe you're right. The gap between the US and Europe is narrowing to an extent but they need money to get players back from the NBA ala Garbajosa who is an average NBA player at best when healthy but is still one of the best players in Europe,otherwise even he wouldn't come to them if some NBA team took a chance on him.
Landry's contract was fully guaranteed. That was Buddy Baker's weak argument from last year. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5130595.html
It was alleged that Toronto bought out Garbajosa because he wouldn't pass a NBA physical for a trade to work.
