ricealum - I'd suggest not. Others have had threads locked and in extreme instances, I think some have been banned due to repeated post padding.
Seriously, I would like to "add" something. Following are excerpts from Sean Deveney's column on MSNBC, "Breaking down NBA free agency." Personally, I would add Piatkowski first, then see if we can nab a 1, possibly Armstrong. If it's a small, one-year contract, I'd even like to see Kenny Anderson or Rod Strickland. I'd take Daniels as a reserve combo guard, though, but only after signing Piatkowski. A great shooter would do wonders in a post-up system. (cf. Kenny Smith, game 1, 1995 NBA Finals) POINT GUARDS Outlook: Pretty strong crop, even after Jason Kidd and Gary Payton. Many teams are in need of a point guard, so this is one position where there will be some movement. 1. Jason Kidd. 2. Gary Payton. 3. Gilbert Arenas. 4. Andre Miller. 5. Jason Terry. 6. Speedy Claxton. 7. Kenny Anderson. 8. Rod Strickland. 9. Darrell Armstrong. 10. Earl Boykins. Others: Milt Palacio, Shammond Williams, Smush Parker, Kevin Ollie, Travis Best, Randy Brown, Anthony Johnson, Tyronn Lue, Robert Pack, Jacque Vaughn, Chris Whitney, Mark Jackson, Mateen Cleaves, Damon Jones. SHOOTING GUARDS Outlook: Most of the top names on this list are likely to stay put, and the bottom of the list is nothing to get excited about. 1. Corey Maggette. 2. Richard Hamilton. 3. Stephen Jackson. 4. Lucious Harris. 5. Reggie Miller. 6. Eric Piatkowski. I’m still waiting for teams to react to zone defenses by landing better shooters. I hear it talked about, but I don’t see it happening. Some very smart team is going to give Piatkowski a modest contract, and let him fire away from the perimeter. 7. Voshon Lenard. 8. Raja Bell. 9. Antonio Daniels. Cleveland would make a good fit for Daniels, a personable guy from Columbus, Ohio. He can play some point guard but has proved he is not a starter at that position. Orlando, Miami and Chicago would be good destinations, too. 10. Jon Barry. Detroit is likely to let Barry walk, which means he’d be headed for the seventh team of his career. He is a veteran shooter, though, and a solid, intense, all-around player. He will try to land with a contender, such as the Spurs, Lakers or Mavericks. Others: Calbert Cheaney, Ira Newble, Felipe Lopez, Brian Shaw, Steve Smith, Steve Kerr, Kendall Gill.
mfclark: "ricealum - I'd suggest not. Others have had threads locked and in extreme instances, I think some have been banned due to repeated post padding." mfc, no fear. I was being sarcastic. Sorry I forgot to use a smiley. My PPS (posts per second) will remain constant.
Could Daniels start in place of a traded Mobley? The Rox could upgrade the 4 and have a nice starter at the 2 in Daniels. Is Daniels planning on visiting Houston, any news to this extent? I hadn't heard that he is.
How can one's intelligence be belittled by someone who misspells a biblical name 13 times in a row? I did not mean to abandon stats- they definitely have a purpose. I should have been more clear on that, but I felt the use of statistics was implied. But,why do you feel there is a need to boil everything down into just one stat? This is not about finding a better stat to measure offensive efficiency- anytime you attempt to boil several facets into just one, there will be flaws. Use the wide range of statistics out there in addition to breaking down a player's game like DavidS just did. Please explain for everyone what "offensive efficiency" means. Does it mean a player with a higher PPS (offensive efficiency) rating than another will make an offense run more efficiently? You still haven't explained how an offensive efficiency stat doesn't incorporate assists. Should the T-Wolves be trading Kevin Garnett for Carlos Boozer? Of course not. PPS favors guys like Boozer and Brad Miller who convert a high % of their FGs and draw lots of fouls. Ok, so they're more efficient players. That still means nothing. Over the course of a game, Garnett is going to get his, and he's going to change the defensive attack. Boozer isn't. Like I said, I don't see the use of the stat as a measuring stick of any kind, any more than FG% alone- by definition, it doesn't measure any defensive skills, and I haven't seen it show a player's offensive impact, either. Using PPS to rate one player over another is just like saying Cuttino Mobley would score more points a game than Iverson if they switched situations, simply because Mobley has a higher FG%. Anyone who has seen the two knows that Iverson is practically an unstoppable scorer, while Mobley is a very good scorer. PPS, nor any other individual stat can take that into account.
NIKEstrad, can we please move on... another subject. We have over killed this idea. Here is my point. Bring in Daniels as our 2 guard. Trade Mobley for another player. This is my point.
Ok, agreed. I'm about done with it. As I've mentioned in this thread before, I like Daniels- there's no denying the talent he has that made him the #4 overall pick. He was originally supposed to be part of the "new wave" of PGs (with Chauncey Billups) as the athletic scoring types that sort of fizzled out because they couldn't run an offense. The downside is, he's yet to nail down a starter's slot in this league, perhaps due to bad luck (Tony Parker). I'm definitely not opposed to moving Mobley, but it better be a very good deal to make me go into training camp with Daniels and Juaquin as the 2 shooting guards on the roster. We were thin in the guard slots last year (why Cat had to play 40 mins. a game), and moving him for the sake of moving him would make matters worse. Daniels to me, is our ideal 3rd guard who can spot start at either position, and limit Mobley's minutes closer to 35 and perhaps keep Francis under 40.
thank you. and yes, you have overkilled this idea. ...and you're still wrong. pps sucks. only if you're bringing in one hell of a player for mobley. lamar odom, as much as i like him, would be a mistake in this scenario. francis, daniels, and odom...surrounding yao ming and whomever (griffin/motay) would be an invite for defenses to crowd the middle, since none are great outside shooters. if we're looking at brand for mobley (plus cap fillers), it's more intriguing, yet does not address the need for an outside shooter. then it becomes SF, AD, & GR surrounding yao/brand. definitely an improved lineup, however we need more than james posey coming off the bench in the backcourt. we'd need an immediate, step-on-the-court-and-i'm-hot players off the bench for 15-20 mpg. maybe we could address that need with the mid-level exception. maybe. any other trades for mobes don't make sense, because we'd be talking about trading a 20ppg scorer w/above average defense for a bench player. i'm not interested in doing that, and i hope the rockets aren't either. i'd much rather bring in AD & keep mobes. then we can wait for some cap desperate team to give us a quality shooter in place of glen rice. someone along the lines of wesley person. francis/AD mobley/AD/nachbar posey/rice/nachbar motay/griff yao/cato
Like Snackbar was supposed to be. If you're convincing the Clips to give you Brand in a S/T (for kicks, say for Mobley, Griff, and Rice), you may as well bring Piatkowski with him. We know the Rockets talked to Pike and could sign him with part of the MCE. If he's thrown into the S/T, he at least gets the 12.5% raises. Signing Daniels, and then S/T Mobley for Odom would be verrry tempting to me. I would still bring Daniels off the bench (start Francis-Posey-Odom). As for the outside shooting, I think Francis is actually pretty underrated in this dept. Bringing in a playmaker like Odom allows Francis to become a shooter off the ball in certain situations. If Posey can shoot the 40% from 3 point land (big if) he did over the last 1/4 of the season, there's no problem there, IMO.
i'd have no problems with that (francis/posey/odom), if you have pike coming off of the bench. that'd be fine with me.
Why would we want Daniels as our starting 2-guard? There's a reason the Spurs didn't want him to start. He would be good off the bench.
