Fox News Glenn Beck vs CNN Glenn Beck on healthcare

Any specifics of intentional false facts they provide?

 

So you respect other people's viewpoints by warning them that if they label themselves as a conservative that they are subject to guilt by association. Very odd. You have different viewpoints than me, and I will associate you with wingnuts, but I'll do it respectfully. Whatever gets you through the day, I guess.

As for the "leadership" speaking up against Rush, et al...you know...the entertainers. The guys looking to make a buck by being controversial. When was the last time you saw a member of either party speak up against an entertainer that was spreading misinformation against their political opponents? It isn't like that concept is particularly new or innovative.

I can see it now...the Republican members of Congress hold a special press conference. "Rush and Beck have it totally wrong. Our Democratic bretheren are really good guys. They want what is best for the nation. In fact, you should vote for all of them."

How exactly do you expect this idea of your to work? Either party having elected officials that do such a thing are committing political suicide and everybody knows it.

 

D. You think that Beck, Rush, et al are misrepresenting the truth in an effort to get people to talk about them (just like you are doing), thus generating a buzz and enticing people to watch or listen to see what the deal is thus generating higher ratings, more ad revenue, and a fatter paycheck for themselves. Since you realize that is the case, as a sane human being, you don't watch or listen and therefore don't know or care what they say.

You ignored that option.

 

Because it IS NOT an option. If you truly believe that Beck, Rush, O'Reilly et al are misrepresenting the truth, then the leaders of the Republican Party must denounce their statements as untrue. To do otherwise would mean complicity in the lie. You don't really want your party platform to be based on lies, do you?

And for those comparing Maher/Stewart to Beck/Rush/O'Reilly, there is one HUGE difference between them: Maher/Stewart are comedians on HBO/Comedy Central while Beck/Rush/O'Reilly are talking heads on major news networks. You can't simply write them off as "entertainers". They present their lies as fact on a news network. How can you defend the intentional spread of mirepresented truth?

 

if you really think beck and stewart belong in the same breath then you = mucho stupid

 

^ this.

glen beck has admitted he is a racist. he has called our president a racist. fox news tries to separate itself from beck. yet both sides still profit as fox continues to allow him a platform to yap his nonsense.

 

Definitely, the others are all partisan hacks.

http://www.timepolls.com/hppolls/archive/poll_results_417.html

 

Wow. You really believe that. So if I had a show on CNN and said everyday that Sarah Palin supports the open raping of babies and the Democrats did not publicly denounce it, they would adopt that lie as their own and it would be part of their party platform. How very, very strange.

Rush Limbaugh is NOT on a news network. They ARE entertainers. Their job is to generate ratings. Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly never claim to be journalists. They claim to be telling the truth as they see it, but their shows are televised op ed. I do not defend it. It is wrong when they spew lies. They do so to make money - a LOT of money. They crazier they are and the more people talk about them, the more people will watch and the more money they will make.

I simply do not watch them. Years ago I swore off Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC. They are simply about the money. I have been a much happier person ever since. I recommend it highly to anybody wanting to lead a mentally healthier lifestyle.

To suggest that the Republicans in office should listen to every talk show and police them for truth is troubling. I would rather that they spend their time reading actual legislation and debating it on the floor and voting on it (ie their jobs) than to become the truth police on shows run by millionaires trying to become richer by their gimmicks.

I would not hold the Democrats responsible for the content of media, regardless of how bad the lies were and how harmful they were to Republicans. It is boggling why you hold the Republicans to that standard.

 

Ahh, but you are missing a key element: if you had that show, made those statements, and then members of the legitimate press asked the Democratic Party to denounce those claims and they did not, then yes they are complicit. The Glenn Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world shout the lies, the Republican Party in effect just sits back and says, "Hey, we didn't say that." They are complicit in their inaction.

Really? Here's the link for the local affiliate in central TX that broadcasts Rush.

http://radio.woai.com/main.html

Unless I'm very much mistaken, the name is NEWS Radio WOAI. I'm sure you'll find that it is largely the same across the country. He may not be on TV, but he is DEFINITELY part of the network news.

So would I, in an ideal world. But here's the problem: their constituency is watching the dog-and-pony show on Fox News, and then coming to the aforementioned hall meetings frothing at the mouth and packing firearms. When these people go off half-cocked spouting the latest lie told by Beck or Rush, I think BOTH sides should clear the air and bring the TRUTH to light. The Democratic Party is trying to answer these questions. The Republicans are just sitting back and letting the lie fester.

They may not be responsible for the media content, but they ARE responsible for and must deal with the actions and reactions that the content generates.

 

fixed

 

We simply disagree in regard to the responsibility of politicians to correct media whores.

For the record, if the Dems were in the same situation, I would feel the same way. The Dems would not have the responsibility either.

The exception to all of this is Sarah Palin. It appears that she has publicly parroted misinformation. That makes her culpable. No big loss to me, I didn't like her anyway.

 

I don't recall Nixon,Regan,H W Bush, or George W Bush trying to fix anything, but I do recall conservatives killing Health Care when Clinton was in office, and now their attempting to do it again. In the last 40 Years, what three polices has your party passed that benefits regular working people?

I hate to say this, but Republicans are not interested in fixing health care. Maybe the people from your party who go to these town halls should spend less time attacking Obama, and more time attacking their elected republican officials to actually come up with some ideas of their own.

 

I'm sorry, but I remember when Bush was elected and Republicans had both congress and the white house, they were as wacky then as there are now...Nice Try!

 

Ok now you're lying!

and also tons of conservatives get their news straight from Rush and take it as fact. I saw the statistic for this and Rush was like # 1 or 2 for the person most Americans go to get their news from. I will look for the survey.

 

Wow...

1. Nice triple post responding to the same poster.

2. If Rush is the number 1 or 2 for where most people get their news from, it isn't just conservatives. Your entire premise is flawed.

3. Your memories of the late 1990s and first part of this decade are very different from mine. Could it possibly be that (gasp) you thought they were nuts because you didn't agree with them? Perish the thought.

4. You spent 18 minutes responding to my posts and it was all based on "from what I remember" and "what have your guys done?" No real value there. Thanks though.

 

I will deal with the rest of your lies later on, but lets get to the important stuff.



embryonic stem cells

Medicaid which covers certain eligible U.S. citizens and resident aliens, including low-income adults and their children, and people with certain disabilities.the fastest growing aspect of Medicaid is nursing home coverage.


Millions of elderly people found succor through the 1965 Medicare amendment to the Social Security Act.

voting rights act which removed voting restrictions from minorities allowing millions of blacks in the south to vote for the first time.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 which ended most of the racist oppressive Jim Crow laws in the south.

Under Clinton jobs were created and we had lowest unemployment rate in modern times.

Higher Education Act -which focused on funding for lower income students, including grants, work-study money, and government loans.

Economic Opportunity Act included several social programs to promote the health, education, and general welfare of the poor examples Head Start and Job Corps


Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993, which required large employers to allow employees to take unpaid leave for pregnancy or a serious medical condition.

LBJ nominated civil rights attorney Thurgood Marshall to be the first African American Associate Justice of the Supreme Court further promoting equality.

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 in August 1993, which passed Congress without a Republican vote. It cut taxes for fifteen million low-income families, made tax cuts available to 90% of small businesses,[47] and raised taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of taxpayers.

The State Children's Health Insurance Program The program was designed to cover uninsured children in families with incomes that are modest but too high to qualify for Medicaid.

Obama signed the re-authorization of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to cover an additional 4 million children currently uninsured.

 

So you are going to post a bunch of crap about things I never mentioned as a way to deal with my "lies."

Basically, screw you. The very nanosecond you had to start talking about topics I never touched on in order to make some irrational claim that I am lying when we had never debated anything at all, you showed yourself for what you are....

...a complete jackass who has no intention of having a debate on issues. You just want to smear somebody that dares to support a viewpoint that is not your own.

Save the bandwidth. I'm not playing your little jackass games.

 

I see now that you're no better then Basso and some of those guys with theses lies you are posting.Again I will respond to your other points later when I get some time.



Off O'Riley personal website:

For more than eight consecutive years, an amazing 100+ months, The O'Reilly Factor on the FOX News Channel has been the highest rated of any cable news show. It is presided over by Bill O'Reilly, probably the most controversial, most frequently discussed TV journalist today.

http://www.billoreilly.com/g/Bill-O'Reilly's-Bio/515.html


By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009

On the other side, Obama bashing doesn't do the folks much good, either. Why waste time on attacks, when information is what the folks need? I think it's fair to say that this brutal economic downturn took most Americans by surprise. It certainly shocked me. Even though I'm a journalist, I had no idea that mortgage companies were gaming the system by bundling risky loans and selling them to dunces at Lehman Brothers. I was clueless. In hindsight, I should have been more skeptical of the housing bubble.


http://www.billoreilly.com/site/product?printerFriendly=true&pid=25476&said=null&satype=null



Bill O'Reilly on David Letterman talking about Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh


DAVID LETTERMAN: Now let's talk about your buddy Glenn Beck, there's a piece on him in 'The Times' the other day and he said what I think coalesces this whole deal
BILL O'REILLY: Which deal is that?
LETTERMAN: That you're too smart to say the things you say
O'REILLY: Me or him?
LETTERMAN: Everybody, you, Rush, Glenn Beck
(O'Reilly chuckles at being lumped with the others)
LETTERMAN: ...Glenn Beck says that if people take what I say as gospel they're idiots...
O'REILLY: Glenn is a talk show host. Rush Limbaugh is a talk show host, they're not journalists
LETTERMAN: What are you? You're a talk show host right
O'REILLY: I'm a journalist...
LETTERMAN: But now what you mostly do is commentary
O'REILLY: Now it is, Yes - But I was a hard news reporters. But those guys are basically entertainers and they admit it.



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I answered you and all you could do is cry like a baby and say "screw me" lol the feeling is neutral buddy I DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER .

What Lie will you tell next?

 

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