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Fox News Calls Michelle Obama "Obama's Baby Mama"

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  1. Invisible Fan

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  2. gifford1967

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    No one has posted any evidence of Michelle Obama calling herself a "baby mama", but the wingers have quickly seized on tj's misrepresentation of the situation and have started repeating it like it was fact. That didn't take long.
     
  3. flipmode

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    MY BABY'S DADDY does not equal BABY MAMA.

    one is a source of personal attachment and pride, another direct way to say "the father of my children," which is a common phrase used by the general public.

    "baby mama" is street-borne terminology for a woman with a b*stard child. it was popularized by the black community.

    fox and michelle malkin are resourceful, hot-button-pushing hacks who know exactly what they're doing. the argument is that they should not be considered a "news" channel anymore. they don't do journalism, they do YELLOW journalism and are preying upon uneducated viewers.

    fox should now be competing in ratings with TMZ.

    i propose a trade:
    Comedy Central trades all tapes of Dane Cook and Carlos Mencia to Fox for Alan Colmes' dignity and cash considerations
     
  4. rimrocker

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    Come on people, it was just poor judgment...

     
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    How about no one uses the stupid word?
     
  7. flipmode

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    poor judgment happens once or twice.

    when you start making a career of it like bill orally, ann coulter, michelle malkin, sean hannity, and fox news, it's YELLOW JOURNALISM that needs to be called such, and taken out of the "news" segment of media.

    it's juice-drink. 10% juice, 90% sugar/water/color, and people wonder about obesity.
    it's "natural" food that is pumped full of pesticides, hormones, and fancy packaging.
    it's like "no MSG" labels on food that is full of free glutamic acids.
     
  8. Classic

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    I agree, in this case, it was used in poor taste. I was under the impression that in this circumstance though, that Michelle Obama referred to herself as 'baby's momma' and they were merely quoting her. Pretty tacky but journalism is all about sensationalism and ratings anyway. BTW, I hate fox news.

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    Kind of another topic I guess but, I'm just tired of people getting so riled up when it comes to whites using 'another's' slang to reference something only to get jumped on and getting the race card pulled. Kind of like the Don Imus thing. Imo, that old man didn't even know what the hell he was saying. Is he racist? Maybe. But in that case, I think it was merely a misuse of words that show up in black/(or today's youthful and hip-hop influenced) culture.

    Frankly, I don't care what your race is, it is your character that counts and what I judge people on. Political correctness imo, breeds resentment and hate. I am of a generation that grew up listening to rap and have slang in my vocab that is derivated from that. Guess my beef in all this is with something else all together.
     
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    Of course, that isn't true at all.
     
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    I'm against political correctness. I'm also against racism.

    As for Michelle Obama saying something, it doesn't matter. If she makes some self deprecating humor about her and her husband that doesn't open the doors for this kind of thing from "fair and balanced" cable news networks.
     
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    Guys look, any criticism of Obama = pure unadulterated racism.

    Again, the choice in the voting booth this November will be:

    Obama

    or

    You are ignorant racist white trash
     
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    Criticism of Obama is fine. Racism is not. Please show me where FOX has called white wives of white candidates "baby mama" or you'll continue to on your increasingly downward spiral in d&d threads.

    PS when are you going to agree to take Sam Fisher up on his bet?
     
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    calling Michelle Obama a "Baby Mama" = legitimate criticism?
     
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    Fox News Calls Michelle Obama "Obama's Baby Mama" = criticism of Obama???
     
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    While to some extent this may be true to some people...this is a REALLY poor choice of situations to raise that argument.
     
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    Again, FranchiseBlade, Michelle Obama introduced that type of lingo into the dialogue... Cindy McCain has not -- she is more professional than that. More First Lady-like. So when people associate stuff like "baby mama' to Michelle Obama, it should come as no surprise.

    So I suppose if a Fox anchor gave a terrorist fist jab to a co-anchor, then that's an attack on Michelle Obama's race?

    Sam's bet? I'm thinking about it. Still waiting on the fine print details, however. I don't have the time to craft all that -- my time is valuable. Sam is the right guy to lay it out in black and white.
     
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    If you look at the screen cap, it says "Outraged Liberals:Stop Picking on Obama's Baby Mama!" This gives the impression that somebody, somewhere was dumb enough to say that.

    The fact that nobody was being quoted or paraphrased, and Fox made that up on their own...is misleading. Oh yeah...and the producer should be fired at once.
     
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    If you guys think this is bad, just wait for Ann Coulter. She's probably jealous right now and is dreaming up the ideal line she can "innocently"throw out during some interview later on in the summer. I promise you it is coming. She can only go so long before needing an outrageous eruption to stay relevant.
     
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    It's Fox News. Lowered expectations has been broken in between the viewers and the producers. They have the license to lie and distort as they please.
     
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    Hilarity.


    http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=870

    Back in the day – you know, when presidential candidates were respectably white – news organizations called potential First Ladies “wives.” But now that black folks are running, we can get all funky fresh with the lingo, yo. So it’s basically fine for Fox News to use “Baby Mama” for Michelle Obama, slang that implies a married 44-year-old Princeton-educated lawyer is, to use an Urban Dictionary definition of the term, “some chick you knocked up on accident during a fling who you can’t stand but you have to tolerate cuz she got your baby now.” Because the Obamas are black! And the blacks, they’re all relaxed about that ****, yo. Word up. And anyway, as the caption clearly indicates, it’s not Fox News that’s calling Michelle Obama “Baby Mama,” it’s outraged liberals. Fox News is just telling you what those outraged liberals are saying. They didn’t want to use the term “Baby Mama.” But clearly they had no choice.

    Meanwhile, over at her personal site, Michelle “Fox News’ Ethnic Shield” Malkin defends Fox News’ use of the “Baby Mama” phrase by essentially making two arguments. First, Michelle Obama once called Barack Obama her “baby’s daddy,” and as we all know, a married woman factually and correctly calling her husband her child’s father is exactly the same as a major news organization calling a potential First Lady some chick what got knocked up on a fling. Second, the term “baby-daddy” has gone out into the common culture; heck, even Tom Cruise was called Katie Holmes’ baby-daddy, you know, when he impregnated her and she subsequently gave birth while the two were not married, which is exactly like what happened between Michelle and Barack Obama, who were married in 1992 and whose first child was born six years later.

    So by Malkin’s reasoning it’s perfectly fine for Fox News to call Michelle Obama the unmarried mother of Barack Obama’s children because an entirely different phrase has to her mind entered the common culture, and there was this one time that Michelle Obama once uttered something that sounded like that entirely different phrase, which is not the phrase that Fox News used. But wait! Malkin also points to someone in her comment thread saying that one time, Michelle Obama actually used the phrase “baby daddy”! No apostrophe! It’s in a comment thread, so it must be true. Therefore, Michelle Obama apocryphally using a piece of urban slang makes it perfectly okay for Fox News to use an entirely different piece of urban slang. And that’s why, you see, it won’t be a problem for Bill O’Reilly to refer to Barack Obama as “my *****” on the next O’Reilly Factor.
     

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