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Fox: Francis As Upset as Being Drafted by Vancover

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff, May 23, 2003.

  1. SmeggySmeg

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    Steve Francis is so upset by this he doesn't want to be a PG anymore ;)
     
  2. saleem

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    Larry Brown would be fine but Dunleavy couldn't control the players in Portland and was too nice with them when they were making mistakes.
     
  3. nene

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    FranhiseBlade

    It is good to see someone fight for Steve. It amazes me how everytime he says something, some posters on this bbs read so much in to every single word he says.

    The negative speculation started before anyone had even seen the interview.

    Keep up the fight for fair and balanced fandom.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Steve is simply fighting for his coach...good for him.

    However, he is locked into a 7 year deal...he is going nowhere.

    Remember this:

    Winning cures everything.

    DD
     
  5. Yetti

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    Les is still considering what he is going to do regarding the players. There will be some hard decissions,[interview with media April 15th] so watch out for one or two more surprises still to come. I hope he gets the New Coach as quickly as possible so that any player changes[if any] might be a mutual decission.
     
  6. OUTITAN

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    Exactly, I only brought up his PT because people are blaming SF for his performance. It is unrealistic to believe that Ming was our best hope for reaching the playoffs this season, he was a rookie and he was tired.

    Ming touched the ball quite a bit but passed too much. He also got shut down in a few games and might have lost a bit of confidence at times. Blaming SF for Ming not posting a 20-10-4 every night is rediculous.

    I don't believe that Ming's stats had a lot to do with the events today. There wasn't any significant improvement offensively or defensively. No single player improved significantly this season. Like it or not that is the coach staff's responsibility. Not that the players are blameless, but its always the coaches fault, thats the way sports work, deal with it.

    I feel Rudy will be better off upstairs regardless of who made the call. I also feel the team has a chance to improve as we've been stagnant for years and sometime you've just got to make a change.

    Maybe Les told Rudy to fire his assistants and get some new blood, a new offense or something like that and Rudy said no. Rudy is a stubborn guy, I can see him stepping down rather then firing his crew.
     
  7. OUTITAN

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    All hail the universal truth!
     
  8. leebigez

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    I agree, but like most, it was time to make a move. I think if the cancer thing wouldn't have come up, Rudy would have been asked to step down.

    Someone asked about the protector Steve lost, I agree on that. When Steve made some dumb plays during Larry Smith brief tenure and Larry benched him, how did he respond? He went to the end of the bench and pouted. Rudy would never do this to cat or Steve and this is part of the problem with him and the staff. This team lacks discipline in the worse way. Even in some situations when Kobe makes a couple of dumb plays Phil will sit him down and let him analyze his faults. Of course he wouldput him back in but the message is clear. Run the offense through Shaq and go from there. It was even a play called 4 when the lakers had to make at least 4 passes. How many times did we see the rockets walk the ball up, dribble like the globetrotters and jack up a bs shot? There is a reason why Cat and Francis did that and its not because they were good shots. It was because of the "homeboy" factor which turned Rudy's strenght among veterans into a weakness with the young guys.
     
  9. OUTITAN

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    GP says we need to hire from within. Sounds like you support the Smith theory.

    My take:
    Payton is calling out Les on Rudy's move. If Les promotes one of our coaches then we can assume that Les was happy with Rudy's methods and this really was Rudy's decision. If not then we know Les is the bad guy. Nice move Gary, or am I just being seeing conspiricies everywhere? Maybe reading all the drivel on this board has gotten to me! :eek:
     
  10. Oski2005

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    Nene has it right. It doesn't matter what Steve says or does, he will always be percieved by people here as a whiny b**** making demands. While sane people can see that he's upset about losing his coach, the BBS is filled with people who believe that what his comments were basically "trade me now or else."

    Sometimes, that crap comes accross pretty crazy, the best being when people who claim to be insiders post threads about Steve wanting this or that or saying something and people here actually believe it.

    This is how Steve bashing looks to me most of the time:
    "Did you see the way Steve scratched his nose during that interview? Well, it was similar the the symbolic nose scratching that warriors of the wasapachi tribe of the gulf coast do when they want to let their chief know that they want to join a tribe living on the atlantic coast. Steve is a criminal psychology major, which is aaaaalmost like an anthropology major, so he definately knew the signal he was sending when he scratched his nose that way. That whiney b****, we need to just go ahead and trade him like he wants, surely, we will get something good in return."
     
  11. Oski2005

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    Gary Payton???
     
  12. OUTITAN

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    He was on the best damned tonight...

    Francis will be on the show memorial day, that should be real interesting.
     
  13. OUTITAN

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    Oski2005 = genuis

    :D
     
  14. Oski2005

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    You should have mentioned that in the first place, unless I skipped over a post where somebody was talking about TBDSSP, then it was my bad.
     
  15. OUTITAN

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    my bad, i'll flog myself for the breach of ettiquette :D

    just forgot to stick that in there ;)
     
  16. farhan007

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    i guess you better stop b****in.. since steve was trying to do sacrifice his stats, and pass the ball the second half...
     
  17. steddinotayto

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    In all honesty Rudy was Francis and Co's security blanket. They know that if Rudy was around they can do no wrong and their jobs/playing time wouldn't be a problem. Rudy was too forgiving and did not slap reality into the players enough. With that in mind, Francis and Co are like the youngest siblings in the family--when the youngest causes trouble, it's not as bad as say..the middle kid getting into trouble. I.E--the players were spoiled by the way Rudy failed to get through to his players. And now with Rudy gone, of course Francis has to be 'disappointed' and 'sad'. He and the players now have to realize that Rudy isn't going to be there to cover up for their shortcomings anymore. SImple as that.
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    And in defense of Francis (something I rarely do):

    He did sacrifice his individual stats for the better of the team for most of the season. He could have just pulled an AI and hoist up 30 shots a night. But he didn't. And to say that he's at the mid-point of his career makes me think that the guy only got what another 4 years ahead of him? :rolleyes: I think it's just that Francis isn't as selfless as we want him to be...it's not that he's not helping his team...it's just that he's not helping the team enough i guess. And the Francis vs. Parker..yea Parker's basketball IQ is higher but Francis is MUCH more dependable in crunch time.
     
  19. farhan007

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    when did francis whine today?
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    i think you mistook winning for whining....
     

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