Who gave you the right to speak for most of the country? The Jaguars have been an intriguing team to me for some time.
Great post Vecsey!!! McNair is commited to winning. The Texans need help on defense. Can Reggie Bush play cornerback? Most of you morons were not around when the only way to partake in an Oiler game was via radio (Ron Franklin) or going to the Dome. The Cowboys were on EVERY week in Houston, not the Oilers. Spoiled brats
I agree that winning would certainly help, but I also recall the late 1980s/Early 1990s when the Cowboys stunk and the Oilers were making the playoffs every year, and where I lived (in Amarillo), every single Cowboy game was on TV. Very few Oilers games were. But honestly, it probably is necessary for people to have a connection to a team to want to watch it. In Houston, being the team in Houston solves that. In San Antonio, though, I could see needing something a little more than that for a lot of people. Sadly, without some sort of other historical connection, winning is essentially the only thing that brings a lot of those people in.
Bingo. That's why this news is so irrelevant. It's not Fox drops Texans games. It's one freakin' game, and then they're no longer relevant until at least a year from now. Everything in the NFL is dependent on wins. For example, I don't think anyone would accuse the Cowboys ("America's team") of having a problem acquiring fans. But a few years ago, when the Saints had some quality teams and the Cowboys were among the league's worst, viewers in Beaumont had their telecasts switched to the Saints when it became obvious the Cowboys weren't competitive. This is a team that has fans all over the state of Texas... all over the world... and even they weren't aired in some Texas cities until they began to win games again. And no, I have a hard time believing we'd have beaten either the Eagles or Colts if we could plug in 5 yards on 6 carries from the greatest player to ever play the game. And yes, I'm sure the Saints do have higher ratings and visibility this season. Of course, they'd also have higher ratings with or without Bush, since the team is 2-0 (after being so terrible a season ago) and has the natural human interest story of being relocated back to a city that only a year ago suffered one of the worst natural disasters in the history of this planet. There are a lot of factors in the team's increased visibility... naturally, of course, simplistic haters give all the credit to Bush.
Yes, they intrigue me on where their offense is. 9-0 vs blitzbergh and we arent even talking about baseball. They want respect but really no one cares about J-Ville. They arent on the same level as New England, Cincy, Indy or Baltimore. Until they find someone other than Wrong-wich to QB, no one is really going to pay attention to J-Ville. Yes, defense wins championships but, people want to see a few TDs. Bottom line, J-Ville is boring!
Yawn Does this take into account no shows? No. Therefore, that is lost revenue on food,beer,drinks and merchandise. As for your other point, The first game will always bring the most fans. I would like to see what Reliant looks like this weekend. The Texans are nearly sold out on a season ticket basis. In the past, they would instantly sell out all games. Now, there are still tickets available for nearly all the games (possibly all of them). However, there are thousands of no shows because the team sucks and they are boring. One more thing to notice. How would the first year have the lowest average? This makes no sense. The answer is that they must have added more seats! This skews the information. You sir are the moron.
How many teams have tickets available? I would say less than 7-10. Please enlighten me. I know all about the ticket business.
Exaggerate much? McNair is not losing millions, especially where ticket sales are concerned (see my previous post). And as for those Bush jerseys flying off the shelves? Guess what? The NFL splits merchandise revenue equally. From the Washington Post: So, McNair is benefiting from Bush's jersey sales just as much as New Orleans is. And as for that increase in attendance boost that Bush will allegedly give to New Orleans? According to the same article, 1/3 of ticket revenues will be redistributed equally among all teams. So, once again, if New Orleans attendance spikes, McNair will also benefit, especially considering his team is already filled to capacity. Any more fallacies you wish for me to clear up?
Based on the first 2 weeks of the NFL season, every game was sold out, thus lifting the BLACKOUT rule in all markets.
Concession money spent ends up being approximately 1/12 the price of a ticket. So, in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty irrelevant. As long as each individual ticket is sold, they're going to do fine. You keep talking about what will happen... I'll believe it when I see it. Show me an actual result of a game where thousands of tickets were not sold, and I'll give you props. You haven't yet. You're arguing in hypotheticals and predictions. Vescey is arguing in facts. As for the seating since the opening season, they've opened up a few more SROs, but capacity is generally the same.
70,000 people x 5.00= 350,000 per game x 10 games 5.00 is being generous. It may be closer to 10.00. This does not take into account merchandise either.
Again, you're guessing... and guessing incorrectly at that. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=112509&page=3 NFL teams receive $190K and $300K in concession revenue per game... let's play with the median number of around $250K. Divide that by 70,000 fans, and that's around $3.50 they take in per fan. And even at the lowest levels of fan support, 80 percent of the stadium is still filled. So, we're talking a very small minority at a very small rate of $3.50. For a franchise worth hundreds of millions of dollars (third highest worth in the league), that's not a whole lot. Furthermore, it's not even for the entire season. The Bush/Young novelty factor only stays if the team wins. If it's Vince, he's on the bench for much of the season... do you really think fans would pack the stands to watch him on the sidelines? Nope. It would be an attendance boom when he plays, but not even Tennessee (a worse team than Houston in all likelihood) is willing to put him on the field now. If it's Bush, it's fun for a few games. But people wouldn't be lining the stands to watch Reggie if this team is 1-8 in November. Much like ratings for the Saints will tumble dramatically if the team stops winning games, even with Reggie playing. And based on his amazing 0.8 YPC average last week, you're going to have a hard time making a legitimate case that the Texans would be anything other than 0-2 if they had Reggie in the backfield. So, $3.50 a fan... a couple thousand extra no-shows for a couple games... wow, the Texans are really devastated here. Get back to me when you can prove tickets weren't sold for a game.
Lost concessions revenue is a concern, but I doubt there were THAT many no-shows. After all, there are only EIGHT home games for the Texans. This isn't baseball or basketball, where home games are a dime a dozen. If you miss even ONE game, you're missing 12.5% of all Texans home games for the year! Besides, those no-shows still count as ticket revenue, anyway. Last year, the team was atrocious, so attendance did not match the home game opener all year. So, yes, you're right... for last year. In 2004, the home opener attendance was 70,255. The VERY NEXT home game? 70,741. In 2003, the home opener attendance was 70,487. TWO home games later? 70,623. In 2002, the home opener attendance was 69,604 (19-10 against Dallas!). The LAST home game of the season? 70,694. (Note: I didn't check every game that year. Perhaps the season opener attendance was broken sooner.) So, I've debunked your statement for every year of the franchise's existence except 2005. 3 out of 4 ain't bad. See my earlier point about no-shows missing 12.5% of all home games with each game they miss. Take a look at ESPN's numbers. In 2002, the stadium was filled to 100.6% capacity. In 2003, it was 101.4%. In 2004, it was 101.7%. In 2005, it was 101.2%. If you do the math, all those figures are based on 69,500 seats. Not a hard concept to grasp. I'm the one doing actual research; you're the one posting diarrhea. We'll let the rest of the folks here decide for themselves who the real moron is.
Once again, per my previous post, all merchandise revenue is split evenly among every NFL team. You're grasping at straws now.
Yeah it happened to me. All of a sudden they said "lets go to a more competitive game" and the score was 10-0. I dont even think they ended up scoring. It was actually worse than watching the Texans. Same thing happened all of last year. They showed the games in the beginning and then the networks had enough. Whatever happened to NFL regional coverage. That was an agreement I thought?!
