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(Fox 26) Texans reached verbal agreement w/ Williams

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by candlegreen, Apr 28, 2006.

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  1. BIG Mistake to pass up on Bush!!

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  2. Split feeling

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  3. Mario William is the right choice

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  4. Should have traded down if we were not going to draft Bush

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  1. KingCheetah

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    These days Deuce would be the exception if he didn't come back 100% from his ACL.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    I'm lost here. If Deuce was not going to be the same, then RB would be a need. And Bush would be the BPA. So in either situation they would take Bush.

    And as far as ACL injuries, where did you get that they don't back the same?
     
  3. The Cat

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    Not at all. I'm sure he'll come back and be effective. But his initial burst and his ability to move around is unlikely to ever be the same. It's a very subtle difference, but it does exist and it does in most cases limit players' abilities to be the stars they once were.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    So he'll be about 90%?
     
  5. The Cat

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    I'm not sure where you're lost. I said you take BPA over need unless you're absolutely certain the BPA is at a position where you are set. I firmly believe that if McAllister had not suffered the injury, the Saints would have traded hte pick.

    As far as ACL injuries, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. If you honestly believe that a majority of players at skill positions (note: ones that required frequent cutting) come back exactly the same after major ACL surgery as they were before, you're incredibly misinformed.
     
  6. The Cat

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    Of what he once was, something like that. But that small, small difference is what separates elite NFL backs from mediocre NFL backs. It doesn't take much.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    NO WAS trying to trade the pick! But they did not get enough value for it. It had nothing to do with Deuce, who looks to be back and healthy. He said he will be back at 100%. I don't think they are worried.

    As far as ACLs, McGahee and Edge seem to be doing just fine. But ok, maybe not 100%, but how about 95%?
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    If Deuce is at 90%, RB is not a position of need for New Orleans.
     
  9. The Cat

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    There's a difference between trying to trade the pick and fielding offers. Every team - no matter how much they're in love with a player - is willing to listen to offers. No one's going to turn down a Herschel Walker type trade, if it were hypothetically offered. Teams made offers to New Orleans, but were the Saints trying to move the pick? We don't know.

    As for McGahee and Edge, we've already discussed that there are exceptions to the rule.
     
  10. The Cat

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    It may not be a position of need, but it's a slight question mark. And when there's a clear BPA (like Bush was at that pick), you take him unless you are set at that position for certain. If Deuce is at 90 percent, the Saints aren't set for certain. There are plenty of questions.
     
  11. Untraceable

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    So what will the Texans tickets sells look like this year?
     
  12. The Cat

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    Every game sold out, like always.
     
  13. Nice Rollin

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    sold out but nobody will show up...
     
  14. The Cat

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    That means absolutely nothing in terms of revenue. As long as they're paying for the seats, that's what matters in the business perspective.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    If they continue to suck, they won't keep paying for those seats.
     
  16. sammy

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    Not true at all. Ever heard of concession sales. It does affect them in a big way when you have to pay 5 bucks for a soda but theres noone to buy.
     
  17. The Cat

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    Oh, I see. So the first pick of the draft should be based on the outside chance that maybe the Texans will be bad and maybe some fans won't show up and maybe we won't sell quite as many sodas. Gotcha.

    Guys, the reality is that the Texans don't have a revenue problem. This isn't the Arizona Cardinals. The only point to all of this is that it was a football decision.
     
  18. Major

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    And why exactly do we care how profitable the Texans are? If anything, this just reinforces the fact that they are picking who they think will help the team get better the most/fastest, since it certainly wasn't to get fans in the seats through a bunch of hype.
     
  19. Coach AI

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    We've had very little reason to have confidence in the Texans' drafting and decision making abilities up till now.

    Why are so many of you sure that they're making a good 'football' decision at this point? Kubiak I guess?
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Didn't you just say New Orleans had to draft based on revenue and ticket sales? Now you are making fun of the idea.
     

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