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(Fox 26) Texans reached verbal agreement w/ Williams

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by candlegreen, Apr 28, 2006.

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  1. BIG Mistake to pass up on Bush!!

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  2. Split feeling

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  3. Mario William is the right choice

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  4. Should have traded down if we were not going to draft Bush

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  1. twoface723

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    Wasn't on the Texan's radar...
     
    #201 twoface723, Apr 28, 2006
  2. steddinotayto

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    someone clearly needs a hug right now and it's not reggie bush
     
    #202 steddinotayto, Apr 28, 2006
  3. kaleidosky

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    everything i heard pointed to moving Babin and Peek back to their "natural" end positions since we were shifting out of the 3-4. Am I wrong?
     
    #203 kaleidosky, Apr 28, 2006
  4. CriscoKidd

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    I think Mario brings more value to this team on the field than Bush does.

    The offense can improve pretty drastically with good coaching.

    The defense doesn't have any playmakers on the team outside of Dunta and has no chance in hell of improving until they can get pressure on the qb.

    Mario is the best DE prospect since Peppers, and maybe even better than him, as far as measurables go. Lineman generally last longer in the league than rbs, and at a much higher level.

    I think going for Mario is the right move, but I didn't think there was any chance in hell that the Texans would have the guts to actually do it. Color me surprised.

    Mario = chance for more W's, but I can understand why fans would be upset at not getting to see Bush our VY on the highlights for their team. It isn't the sexy pick, but whatever.
     
    #204 CriscoKidd, Apr 28, 2006
  5. RocketFan007

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    Really? How do you know this? Are you in the Texans front office?
     
    #205 RocketFan007, Apr 28, 2006
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is official

    Wow, this guy was NOTHING in college....this is comical....

    HOUSTON -- The Houston Texans have signed North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams to a six-year, $54 million deal, making him the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft Saturday.


    Of the $54 million, Williams is guaranteed $26.5 million.


    Texans general manager Charley Casserly had cautioned earlier in the week that anyone concluding the team had decided on Southern California tailback and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush and was only using Williams as leverage was mistaken.


    The choice of Williams by the Texans could dramatically alter the landscape of the early segment of the first round. The New Orleans Saints, with the second choice, have indicated they would snap up Bush if he fell to their slot. But the Saints had hinted, in general, that they might entertain trade offers for their pick.


    DD
     
    #206 DaDakota, Apr 28, 2006
  7. RocketFan007

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    Correct, both Peek and Babin were supposed to play DE this year.
     
    #207 RocketFan007, Apr 28, 2006
  8. CriscoKidd

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    imo, I don't think either of those guys are going to be good DEs. Maybe servicable depth, but nothing more.
     
    #208 CriscoKidd, Apr 28, 2006
  9. Jeff

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    Really, how did you figure that out? I mean, the link has only been posted 3 or 4 times now. :D
     
    #209 Jeff, Apr 28, 2006
  10. JumpMan

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    Wow! Merrill Hodge is the biggest hater in the history of haters, he would run away the haters ball on Chappelle show, did anyone see his blasting of both Matt Lienart and Vince Young? He basically says Vince Young will be a bust because he's dumb and he doesn't have a strong arm, and that Matt Leinart will be an average QB because he's not that smart and has a weak arm.
     
    #210 JumpMan, Apr 28, 2006
  11. Clutch

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    I wouldn't sweat it guys ... this reminds me of when the Rockets took Jay Williams over Yao Ming. It all pays off in the end.
     
    #211 Clutch, Apr 28, 2006
  12. Castor27

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    OK now that I have had a little time to think about it, I've calmed a little bit. I'm still not giving Kubiak (this is obviously his choice) a pass, but I am going to take a more reserved wait and see attitude. I've been looking for an article I read earlier today trying to find some stats on Williams. I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, but in searching I ran across a couple of other articles about him. Both articles talk about the importance of a good pass rusher for Super Bowl teams. Look at the last few winners and you'll see that none of them have a real super stud at RB. The last great RB to play for a SB winner was probably Faulk and they were 1 yard away from losing and maybe Jamal Lewis but he was fairly unheralded at the time. Before that you have to go back to '96 and Emmitt Smith. Heck, even most of the SB losers (with Seattle the exception) lack an elite RB. Most SB teams have above avg. to good backs , and I think that a lot of people will agree that DD can fit that category.

    Switch gears for a minute and consider this. Most of the SB teams had an elite defensive lineman or linebacker. Pittsburgh, Tampa, Baltimore, Philadelphia with Kearse, Green Bay with Reggie, all these teams have good defenses. Maybe the Texans are on to something. Like I said before I'm not giving them a pass, especially if Williams is terrible. But I'm certainly not going to crucify them until I see what he does. I think we'll all be happy if pans out like a Peppers or Kearse.
     
    #212 Castor27, Apr 28, 2006
  13. DaDakota

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    Sorry, just saw that.....

    It is a wow....I mean wow...this guy was DECENT at NC State, but not dominant.

    All I heard from scouts was that if they weren't told to watch him they would not have noticed he was on the field.

    Also, I heard his motor is not on all the time.

    I think VY would have been the best pick but Bush was a good 2nd choice.....this just reeks of stupidity, UNLESS there is a trade in place that we don't know about.

    DD
     
    #213 DaDakota, Apr 28, 2006
  14. CriscoKidd

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    yup, the saints were probably going to take him even though they already have 2 really good DE's. That shows me how highly regarded he is as a prospect when the Saints have way more glaring needs than DE.
     
    #214 CriscoKidd, Apr 28, 2006
  15. KingCheetah

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    Ha! That's DD being deliberately obtuse in order to rub it in to some of the obnoxious Bush Only Fans around here. :D



    That's my guess anyways... ;)
     
    #215 KingCheetah, Apr 28, 2006
  16. twoface723

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    So th Bush Bowl wans't the Bush bowl :p ?
    Damn I'm dissapointed...
     
    #216 twoface723, Apr 28, 2006
  17. SA Rocket

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    The bright spot in that is maybe they're copying JJ's Cowboys, when he rotated 7 or 8 D-linemen throughout the game, so they were never worn down by the O-lines when the 4th qtr came along.
     
    #217 SA Rocket, Apr 28, 2006
  18. Miguel

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    #218 Miguel, Apr 28, 2006
  19. twoface723

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    LMAO!
     
    #219 twoface723, Apr 28, 2006
  20. The Real Shady

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    Charlie Pallilo speculated that Team Bush went into this asking for more then he was worth because he didn't want to play for the Texans. He would only play for the Texans if they overpaid him. Bush really wants to go to New York or San Francisco.

    If this is true, why didn't they at least trade down.
     
    #220 The Real Shady, Apr 28, 2006
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