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FOX 26 reporting Rockets pursuing Mutombo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by r-fan-since-81, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. BiGGieStuFF

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    What I like about adding mutombo and sura and ward is that they are all defensive minded. One important factor of having a good offense is allowing your stars to be able to expend as little energy as possible and allow them to use more of that on offense. Adding these guys will allow mcgrady for one to play his normal defense w/o exerting too much energy because he won't have to take the huge defensive assignment night in and night out and now neither will JJ and there is not too much of a defensive liability at the PG position anymore either. I think our defense will be better than last years. I'm so excited. I hope this works out.

    ON the other hand this could be a complete disaster and we'll be out of the playoffs and fighting for the top lottery pick and mcgrady leaves us after one year and we're stuck with scrubs.

    Did I cover both sides? :)
     
  2. BiGGieStuFF

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    As for the argument about NY and NJ not using him because he's over the hill, they just had no way of fitting him into the offense in NJ with their running game and NY with their run and gun guards and forwards in marbury, houston, and tim thomas had now way of using him either. He's not the post prescence you would want to run a half court offense through so that's my guess as why you didn't see him that much, but I think he definitely spells relief for Yao though for about 15 mins a game. NO way I can see a line up of mutombo or yao in at the same time though unless we're getting killed on the interior though but I doubt that will ever happen. I hate to see Pike leave though because I really think he had an off-season. Then again he's been in the league for 9 years and never really made too much of an impact in L.A. either. I think he'd still be a great steve kerr clone. YOu always need one of them on your team but I think you get the same production out of padgett. He seemed to be able to light it up from the 3 plus his looks are more wide open since the oppositions PF usually guards him.
     
  3. dharocks

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    No one deserves to be shipped to that Chicago team as it's currently configued. Pike's a professional though. I think he'll understand.

    Unfortunately, I don't see Padgett being resigned. He played really well in limited minutes, too. I had no idea he could dunk until the last game of the season against Dallas.
     
  4. JoeBarelyCares

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    I'm skeptical about the Wilks part of the equation. Any sign and trade contract has to be at least 3 years. Chicago already has Hinrich and Ben Gordon to man the PG position. Why would they give Wilks a 3 year deal to sit the bench? His salary is not needed for a throw-in, because we have the TE, and can do the deal without him.
     
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    They are making a big mistake. The guy is old and what if he gets injured? He's been declining over the last 2 years.
     
  6. AstroRocket

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    God, if this happens, we have got to get Yao, Deke, Hakeem, and Moses all in the same room and tell them to have a conversation.

    I'm dying of laughter just thinking about it.
     
  7. kh0001

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    Some of you guys are really high on Deke. That makes me wonder.

    I have an impression that he can barely move on the court and is foul-prone. Am I missing something??

    KH
     
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    Great men don't have to talk to each other. They communicate through the eyes.
     
  9. yaopao

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    Mutombo is pretty useless now. He made a very minimal impact in the East recently with NJ. Yet somehow he's supposed to have an impact in the West?

    We need a center who is a little more mobile than Mutombo. I just don't think he's that effective in guarding the basket anymore.
     
  10. SmeggySmeg

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    well at least we will now have someone more done on our team than Ward, team up Mutumbo and Ward with Ewing and they should have a nice for 3 on 3 s in training camp

    one fork for Ward

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    and the special spork for Mutumbo

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  11. m_cable

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    One thing I noticed in the Coon Faq is that a sign and trade has to be for at least 3 years BUT it specifically states that, "only the first season of the contract must be guaranteed"

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#75

    If CD is intent on keeping the entire TE for a future deal, but the Bulls don't want to pay the extras, then we could just toss in $1.5 million and the Bulls could just cut Griff and Wilks.

    In fact I hope he does it, because it would surely mean that he's looking at another deal in the future.
     
  12. NIKEstrad

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    The Cavs/Magic just did this with Steven Hunter. THey used him to balance out the trade, he picked up a million bucks for his part, and was cut immediately.
     
  13. Pat

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    The issue of the throw-ins does re-raise the TE issue. Assuming we trade for Motumbo, I have to think we are done for this year.

    If the TE is from the Glen Rice trade, it will probably expire unused and there is no reason to throw in players that either team could cut. Just use the TE.

    On the other hand, if the TE is from the T-Mac trade as we keep reading, it lasts for another year, and it makes all the sense in the world to throw in players and save the TE.

    Sure would like a difinitive answer.
     
  14. xiki

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    He needs to be out there 15 minutes a nite. He should be out there against 2nd stringers. He's got enough left for that.
     
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    Wow...this is a GREAT deal for the Rockets. We trade away guys who wouldn't get any minutes anyways and we pick up a very serviceable backup at the position we need it most.
    I don't understand those that AREN'T happy about this deal--what would you do instead? There just AREN'T that many centers left out there, and we DESPERATELY need somebody behind Yao.

    Great move, Rox.
     
  16. mogrod

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    You know what I also like about throwing in 3 players for one is that it opens up a roster spot for Badaine to come to camp and hopefully make the team.
     
  17. xiki

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    He was in JVG's 'minicamp', and he is (was?) here for summer workouts. The staff had planned on evaluating him. I wonder what they learned?
     
  18. ArtV

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    I'd don't understand those stats on Mutombo. Everytime I've seen him play the past couple of years, he moves around so slow and awkwardly that he makes Bradley look like Hakeem in his prime.

    Based on the stats he looks good, but from what I've seen on TV, he's too slow and clumsy to cover most big men. There's a lot more to D than blocked shots.

    But given that we are almost out of money thanks to yesterday's signings, I don't see that there is a better option of trading small for big.

    Has anyone watched Deke play lately?
     
  19. pasox2

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    Look, he only has to play like 12 minutes. 6 in the first half, probably 3 and 3 , and 6 in the second half, again, probably broken up, like 4 and 2. He gets oxygen and strippers at halftime. How hard is that?

    Yao is going to be a horse. If he needs a blow, we can platoon Howard. If he picks up fouls, we send in Mutumbo to b**** slap them.

    I wouldn't mind completing the Georgetown trifecta by picking up Zo Mourning (if he retires, for the min). He can sit on the bench and coach Yao, too. He can come in and work his new kidney for 6-10 minutes at 4 or 5, and lay the wood to any moron that wants to get giggy with Yao.

    Every team needs a goon squad.

    EDIT : Hmn, now that I think about it, I bet that some of the really bad guys in the league, like say, Kobe, will try to take out Tmac. He is more vulnerable and more important. We need to crush them and make them feel pain, if they so much as breathe on him.

    We could use a goon off the bench for the 3 spot, too. Someone to set dirty picks, as needed. Bruce Bowen on Wally. Artest on Mike.
    We need to have Tmac's back.
     
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  20. pariah

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    Well, 0+0...carry the one...=0

    Good Point F4P - if healthy they would both play a little, but neither contributed last year due to injuries, doghouse-itis (which ultimately led to a more severe case of splinterasidis).
     
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