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[Fox 26] CD and Lindsey to meet with Mike James Thursday

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tigermission1, Jul 3, 2006.

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  1. New Jack

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    If he doesn’t have the explosiveness to play the 4, what makes you think he’d be able to keep up with the even more explosive athletes that play the small forward position?

    At this stage in Battier's career, he's a bigger, bulkier and slower player than most swingmen in the league. I’d rather take my chances at him guarding a 4 with a slight height/size advantage than guarding the much quicker/more athletic players at the small forward position, like LeBron, Carter, etc. We can't afford to have any players that are slow for their position on this team, especially with Yao's lack of mobility.
     
  2. Chuck Breezy

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    SORRY GUYS,

    SORRY 2 GO OFF TOPIC A BIT, BUT IF WE GET JAMES THEN THAT MEANS WE DONT BRING V SPANOULIS OVA HERE THIS SEASON??? I MEAN CUZ AINT WE WANT HIM ON DA SUMMMA LEAGUE TEAM?? SO IS THAT BYE BYE FOR V SPAN THIS SEASON, WE LEAVE HIM OVERSEAS AGAIN :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  3. lost_elephant

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    Juwon probably weighs more, but relative to Battier, I think it's a wash. Battier has lost consider quickness since he's been in the league. One loses quickness because of several things, either you've gained alot of weight, you've been injured, or you're getting old. He's 28 and in the prime of his career, he's doesn't have a history of injuries, and he is bulkier than he used to be. I can't begin to assess JHow's condition, but his strength nor his explosive ability appear to be nothing special. They were nothing special when he was a tweener foward in the 90's and he appears to have the exact same body at 30something. I would venture to guess that his weight is much closer to 230 than Battier's is to 220.
     
  4. thumbs

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    Please. This board uses caps and lower case English. There is no "newbie" disrepect meant here. But this general rule eases the :confused: confusion. Thanks.
     
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  5. krosfyah

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    Again, can't you use EXACTLY the same logic to describe Juwan?

    Next time I see JVG, I'll pass this little nugget along. ;)
     
  6. Dubious

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    I don't think the Dallas trade had much of anything to do with Mike James, I think they were just A. clearing the way for Ager to get minutes and B. getting someone to replace Van Horn. James would be crazy to get lost in the Dallas rotation when he could be pivotal piece on the Rockets who only need Yao and Tracy to stay healthy to have an equal chance at a ring.
    And remember, if he plays with the Rockets, he sleeps in his own bed every night.



    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-draft-mavericks&prov=ap&type=lgns

    The Mavs drafted guard Maurice Ager of Michigan State with the 28th pick in the first round Wednesday night and coach Avery Johnson immediately called him the shooting-guard defender the team lacked this past season, which ended in a loss to Wade and the Miami Heat in the NBA finals. "We were looking for a guy who can be a shut-down guy at the 2 spot," Johnson said. "We didn't think we had that on our team last year."

    Marquis Daniels trivia:

    Tattoos
    Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from an extremely detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a disturbing caricature of a man blowing his head with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm [1] which was apparently intended to represent his initials, but when translated into English, it actually reads "healthy woman roof".
     
  7. gucci888

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    That's one of the exact reasons why I'm not crazy about this trade. Battier, while a good role player that, doesn't have the quickness to stay with SFs nor does he have the bulk or great size to play PF.

    A lot people say that Battier can play PF because of the "new breed" of PFs in the league. My point is that these new PFs, for whatever reasons, are all good rebounders. Battier is a decent rebounder at best. But most of all, I don't want Battier to be our only inside defender next to Yao.
     
  8. lost_elephant

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    I don't see how, if one uses quickness as a measurement. He doesn't satisfy any of the requirements that were proposed that lead to loss of speed. He has a history of injuries, he is old, and he hasn't gained any discernable bulk.

    The real issue is that neither are big athletic true power fowards. If I were to have one on the floor in the most important streches of the game, I'd want Battier.
     
  9. Dubious

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    Can someone recap the contract value differences between the sign and trade and the MLE for me please. I want MJB to get his money, lord knows we don't want any players who feel like they are being treated like a cheap prostitute, but a SnT for draft pick would certainly leave the Rockets with more options for adding another PF or bringing over Vspan.
     
  10. Deckard

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    Another nice player we might have picked up with the 24th pick from Memphis, had we obtained it in the Gay/Swift/Battier "deal."
     
  11. gucci888

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    From jeremyang2000:

    TE:

    4.2M+4.7M+5.3M+5.9M+6.7M=26.9M(12.5% increase per year)

    MLE

    5.0M+5.4M+5.8M+6.3M+6.8M=29.3M(8% increase per year)

    It's only 2.4M difference if supposed we offer a 5-year contract.

    Basically, Mike James is better off taking the MLE than trying to pursue a S&T for our TE.
     
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    How does he have a history of injuries? He's averaged 79.2 games over his 5 year career - a virtual iron man. A couple of posters have mentioned his durability as being a question mark. Am I missing something?
     
  13. jump shooter

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    I would have been semi content if the the trade would have been Gay and Swift for Battier and Ager or Kyle Lowry.
     
  14. Dubious

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    But we wouldn't offer a 5 year MLE would we? More likely a 3 with a player option on 4. Couldn't we offer a 5 year on the SnT to make it worth his while?

    Who knows what the cap will be in 5 years, plus we should be getting out of Maloney's deal about then.

    Does one deal or the other offer us a better (or any) shot at Harrington?
     
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    I think we already have Bogans for that role...
     
  16. john_l

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    The Toronto Star say that James is meeting with the Wolves and Mavs as well as with the Rox, and that deal will be MLE, as Toronto is not interested in taking "marginal players" back.
     
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    Oh please, ANY Grizzles fan will tell you that Battier has the ability to shut down quicker men because of his understanding of D! I watched a game this past season where he stuck right on LeBron the entire game! You tend to under-estimate him but you cannot forget he is one of the best defenders in the league much better than Bruce Bowen and Bowen trys to chase around guys like Manu AND Rip!
     
  18. Dubious

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    Well, it wouldn 't be a player, it would be a future 2nd round draft pick versus losing him for nothing.
     
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    He won't shut them down, but he will surely slow them down. There have been concerns with his lateral quickness at this stage of his career. The good news is that he has an 85 for defensive awareness in NBA 2K6 haha
     
  20. H-Dub

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    That is an interesting point you make because Mj might feel as though he would be better off getting a bigger chance to get a 5-year deal! He might also realize that if he used the mle that gives his team a better chance to go and get another big time contributer.
     

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