Fouls: Rockets 24, Blazers 12 -- were they that good?

hallelujah.. you're not blinded by the "respect of the game" crap the naive ppl like to base their views on

 

I thought that some of the calls towards the end of the game was crucial. Especially the foul on battier when roy was attempting a drive with around 3 left in the 4th

 

Should we also complain about fouls?

Before game 5,the whole city of Portland was whining endlessly about fouls, everyone from fans to media to coach, and it worked!
Game 5, we had 24 fouls and Portland only 12! especially in the 4th quarter, over a span we just got mugged. anything we did on the court was a foul.
Also, I noticed last night Yao was banged up pretty bad last night, yet not much calls at all.
although no referee would admit it, I do think the complaints get into their mind sometimes. Or is it just HCA?
thoughts?

 

OK . . let's play Basketball
I can slap your hands . . I can get charges on all your drives
and if it looks like you got by me. . . i get all the travel calls

All those count as TurnOvers. . . . and every point i make is a point off a turnover

let's see if you can still win . . .

Rocket River

 

I'm not going to say the officiating was good, but some of you are straight up conspiracy theorists. Like, the last post of the page before...holy crap. You're straight up saying that the Refs had a master plan to make the Rockets lose....and you're being serious.

Ugh...why even watch the games then? I'm going to review 4th quarter film now.

 

Battousai - yes - that is what happened - could not put my finger on it - but you are right.

 

NBA officiating is almost always bad and has been horrendous for this series. You can't knock on Portland for whining like pre-pubescent girls, then turn around and do the same thing.

I never though of Houston and and Portland as rivals, I have always respected Houston because Rick went to you and Clyde "the Glide" came from Houston, but this series sure is turning things sour.

 

First let me state that the Rockets themselves were to blame for the loss, not the refs.

That being said..one no call that really got me upset was when Wafer drove baseline, and was bumped by Rudy Fernandez and no call was made. However, two times earlier in the game that Roy got bumped, there was a foul called. The difference in the no call and call was the fact that Roy went flying out of bounds, while Wafer continued to try and finish the layup. If Wafer goes flying, that call is made.

Oh well, that game is past, we gotta take care of business, go Rockets!

 

Rudy seems to have a nasty side sometimes.

 

it was fairly called until around the 7 or 8 minute mark when the whistle was blown against the rockets in a two min span as someone pointed out. those consecutive calls took every ounce of aggression the rockets had to finish off the blazers literally guaranteeing victory to the home team.

 

the two fouls on lowry were bogus. the first one he simply poked the ball away from blake on the rebound and the second one roy shoves him into oden. if anything it should have been an offensive foul on roy. but roys a superstar and kyle lowry is, well, kyle lowry.

 

Here's the breakdown of fouls (including a non-call for each team) in the 4th Quarter. On the surface it's 10 fouls against the Rockets and only 3 fouls against the Blazers, but you have to look beneath the numbers.



What it boils down to, in my opinion, is that the Rockets got called for ONE foul which they definitely shouldn't have, two that were questionable, and the rest were either obvious or judgment calls. When you throw out the last two fouls on the Rockets, which were frustration/intentional fouls, it was only 8 fouls to 3 fouls. Then consider that the Rockets made 2 dumb fouls (Lowry and Landry) and it's only 5 fouls to 3 fouls. On top of that, the Blazers were hitting their shots and taking care of the ball while the Rockets were jacking up bad shots and committing dumb turnovers.

Considering all that, it's no mystery why the game got blown open in the final minutes. Despite what some posters seem to think, I did watch the game (in fact I went back and looked closely at all foul calls in the 4th to make this chart), I do know the game of basketball, and I still don't think the Rockets lost the game because of the officiating. They simply didn't execute, take care of the ball, and make shots down the stretch.

 

Pot ... Kettle ...
I watched the game and I watched a recording.
There were maybe 2 bad calls, against Battier and Lowry.

About 12 fouls were committed by Scola, Hayes and Landry on their big men when they tried to front or push them off the post. The exact same ones we want the refs to call against their big men guarding Yao.

We just did not post Yao enough to get the same number.

Timing? The refs had to call them when we committed the fouls, when do you want them called?

 

Great post. Rep-worthy, but I've got to spread it around first.

 

I agree that the Rockets did not lose because of the refs, the Blazers were much more aggressive in going to the rim in this game than they have been in the entire series and that, I think, was the primary difference in the calls. For whatever reason we reverted to the jump-shooting team this game.

The only calls that really bothered me in the last game was the foul called on Battier when Pryzbilla set the moving screen and the foul on Lowry when Roy ran/pushed him into Oden. Otherwise, they were all pretty basic, reaching/out of position, stupid fouls.

 

I repped it. The problem with like 5 of those fouls against the Rockets last night (mainly Lowry and Landry), was that they were COMPLETELY UNNCESSARY. Lowry and Landry had no chance at getting those offensive rebounds and they initiated stupid contact that lead to free throws and putting the rest of the team in a bad situation. And that was bad D or bad communication on the Lowry foul on Oden. Someone has to call that screen so Lowry can prep to fight over/under, not into it...either that or Lowry just played bad D on the screen.

 

Yeah. I was a little torn on how to chart that Lowry foul, but after review I felt that Lowry may have been fishing for a call a little bit and may have made it look worse than it really was. I definitely saw Roy get a hand in there, but at full speed it looked like 50/50 call to me.

 

That pretty much sums it up. I think Landry and Lowry were being overly aggressive given the current foul and clock situations. It was a very close game where all we had to do was hang around until the last minute or two. Instead, it seemed like some of our guys simply started gambling too early and it snowballed on them.

 

Refs played a minimal role in this loss.

The Rockets were just out-hustled, as simple as that.

We didn't crash the boards like we did in Game 4.

At times, we weren't aggressive. At times, we were overly aggressive. You can't drive to the lane, where 4 Blazers are stationed, and expect the refs to bail you out with a call.

We didn't play smart basketball. We became a jump shooting team... and that's a big no-no.

 

Yes. They got ahead of themselves. Agree completely. I just wanted them to keep it close and swing for the fences at the end, but they just got a bit eager and they looked a bit uncomfortable out there, and I think that led to some unnecessary fouls and bad looks at the basket.

I don't think the officiating was perfect. Obviously we would have scored more points of more calls went our way, but as so many others have mentioned, it was the Rockets' failure to execute in the 4th that did them in.