just for giggles, I would love to see your explanation of this http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0820041kerry1.html or this http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0820041kerry5.html this should be highly entertaining
Look at the liberals strategy for disputing the Swift Boat Veterans claims -- attack the source. In this case, it's attack one of the *scores* of swift boat vets who are coming out against Kerry. Let's see, libs, one down, 200 more to go. Yeah, good luck with that. Many veterans have already explained how the fitness reports were often exaggerated and were rubber stamped with words that seemingly indicate praise. Chump, you must have missed that information. It's all over the swift vets website -- I encourage you to look it up. www.swiftvets.com If honesty is what you are interested in, Chump, then I suggest you avoid the Christmas in Cambodia lie that Kerry told. He's already proven himself to be a liar with regard to Vietnam. Why should we believe his accounts of his medals? The same medals that he tossed at the Capitol steps? The same medals that he himself wrote the after-action reports for? Of course, Kerry could put an end to all of this if -- IF -- he could. One signature will do the trick. Sign the 180 form and let us see what really happened. Face it, these ads are dominating the news. It is no mystery why Kerry all of a sudden had a change of heart with regard to 527 ads. That reason is that these ads are devastating his chances of becoming President. I still can't get over the incredibly stupid strategic error that the Kerry campaign made in making his 4 months in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign. No veteran who was sitting in a torture room listening to Kerry's words being used against them would be sympathetic to Kerry's "heroism" in his abbreviated stint in Vietnam.
I just heard on television that Kerry's first Purple Heart was awarded 5 days *before* Kerry entered into his personal journal that he had yet to be shot at in Vietnam. The Kerry camp admits that the possibility exists that the first Purple Heart 'wound' came from a self-inflicted wound. WOW
not WOW. Purple Hearts are awarded for injury from 'friendly fire.' Unless you're suggesting he hurt himself, on purpose, just to get the purple heart in a well schemed plan to bolster his presidential campaign 30 years later... ...and he would have gotten away with it to...if not for you crazy kids!!! I think we've covered the 70's pretty well here. Can we move on to the 80's. How much hairspray did John use and could he master the drum machine? Inquiring minds want to know!
basso -- I heard it from a FoxNews reporter who was covering the Swift Vets story. bnb -- I encourage you to read this link: http://www.purpleheart.org/explanation.htm In fact, I'll help you out a little bit: The PURPLE HEART is awarded to members of the armed forces of the U.S. who are wounded by an instrument of war in the hands of the enemy and posthumously to the next of kin in the name of those who are killed in action or die of wounds received in action. It is specifically a combat decoration.
Jorge, you're about to get owned. The official definition of who is eligible for a purple heart, which has been posted here many times does not differentiate betweenn those who are wounded by friendly fire and those who aren't. As long as it is the result of enemy action -- i.e. any kind of combat, than you are eligible for it. Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire, however your erroneous definition would strip him of a purple heart. http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Purple Heart http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/oldhouse/186/phinfo.htm
Sam: 1) Your link is pathetic. An encyclopedia? Nice try. I think I'll go with the Purple Heart homepage's definition. 2) If Kerry had not been fired upon (which he states in his journal), how could he have been in a combat situation? Ooops! Forgot about the stick fights they got into in Vietnam.. Sam, get real. OWNED
I'm not humoring your antics anymore than the following. Suffice it to say if it's your position that you can't get a purple heart from friendly fire, than you are mistaken. Do whatever you want with that advice, declare yourself the owner, whatever, I don't care. I'm just stating a simple fact. bye.
my understanding is that he would qualify for the PH even if his would was self inflicted, if there was enemy fire at the time. ie, he was getting shot at, pulled the plug on a grenade and ended up getting his ass blown off (not shot off) he'd qualify. not sure where the PH in question fits in, although i do find the admission by his campaign interesting...
basso -- that's a big if. A big 'if' that is disputed by Kerry's journal, according to this report. Sam -- thanks for your SURRENDER. I'm enjoying your coming unhinged over this issue. It's quite entertaining!
here's a link to Major Garrett's story: http://www.foxnews.com/video2/playe...rt&Record News&elec&You Decide 2004&8&wvx-300 and a transcription of the money shot: GARRETT: And questions keep coming. For example, Kerry received a Purple Heart for wounds suffered on December 2nd, 1968. But an entry in Kerry's own journal written nine days later, he writes that, quote, he and his crew hadn't been shot at yet, unquote. Kerry's campaign has said it is possible his first Purple Heart was awarded for an unintentionally self-inflicted wound. so if the campaign admits the wound may have been sefl-inflicted, and kerry's own diary confirms he had yet to be under enemy fire, it seems fairly clear this PH wasn't merited, at least as i understand the rules. can any one else clarify? if true, score another one for the SVFTs...
The attending physician and those that filled that initial report might be able to clarify. I don't think the Navy was lying.
GARRETT: And questions keep coming. For example, Kerry received a Purple Heart for wounds suffered on December 2nd, 1968. But an entry in Kerry's own journal written nine days later, he writes that, quote, he and his crew hadn't been shot at yet, unquote. Kerry's campaign has said it is possible his first Purple Heart was awarded for an unintentionally self-inflicted wound. Since Kerry is a lying liberal, one must discard the journal entry in its entirety.
Rolleyes alert: From Drudge.Com KERRY PHONES SWIFT BOAT FOES **Exclsuive** Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry personally phoned anti-Kerry swift boat vets, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. Kerry reached out to Robert "Friar Tuck" Brant Cdr., USN (RET) Sunday night, just hours after former Sen. Bob Dole publicly challenged Kerry to apologize to veterans. Brant was skipper of the #96 and # 36 boat and spent time with Kerry in Anm Thoi. Kerry and Brant slept in the same quarters, and Brant used to put Kerry back to bed at night when Kerry was sleepwalking. Brant received a call from Kerry at his home in Virginia while he was watching the Olympics on TV. The call lasted 10 minutes, sources tell DRUDGE. KERRY: "Why are all these swift boat guys opposed to me?" BRANT: "You should know what you said when you came back, the impact it had on the young sailors and how it was disrespectful of our guys that were killed over there. [Brant had two men killed in battle.] KERRY: "When we dedicated swift boat one in '92, I said to all the swift guys that I wasn't talking about the swifties, I was talking about all the rest of the veterans." Kerry then asked if he could meet Brant -- man to man -- face to face. Brant declined the invite, explaining that Kerry was obviously not prepared to correct the record on exactly what happened during Vietnam and what happened when Kerry came back.
