1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Former Pessimistic Texan Fan Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ima_drummer2k, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    35,693
    Likes Received:
    7,721
    Hello, my name is ima and I'm a former pessimistic Texan fan.

    (Hello, ima)

    I spent the majority of last year posting my disdain for Gary Kubiak and Bob McNair. I constantly referenced the fact that if not for 2 meaningless wins against 2nd and 3rd string QB's, we would have finished the season on a 10-game losing streak. I thought McNair was too much of a wussy to fire Kubiak and used the meaningless fact that many of the losses were SO CLOSE as an excuse to retain him. I thought he only brought in Wade to try and rekindle some kind of ancient Luv Ya Blue memories in a weak attempt to placate the angry fan-base.

    This year, after seeing the complete revamp of the defense and an overall attitude adjustment for the entire team, I've turned over a new leaf. Now, I'm the one defending the Texans against posters who thought losing to the Raiders mathematically eliminated us from the playoffs and those who think that even if we finish the season 13-3, it's all for naught and we should fire Kubiak anyway because it was an "easy schedule."

    I defend Kubiak from posters who get angry because he doesn't curse and throw things and crap all over his players during his press conferences. After all, that's what all the HOF coaches (like Dennis Green) do.

    So for me, there will be no more sarcastic predictions of 5-7 starts (after we beat Cleveland, of course). I'm not going to spend the entire season waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm going to enjoy it while it's good and not whine about how we took our foot off the gas after being up by 40 at halftime and only winning by 47.

    Whose with me?? Let's go!! AAAAHHHHHHH.......

    [​IMG]
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. macalu

    macalu Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    16,761
    Likes Received:
    635
    (I'm Matt Schaub's complete lack of an audible)
     
  3. Ricksmith

    Ricksmith Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,299
    Likes Received:
    613
    I'm starting to feel the same way, but I still don't trust Kubiak. Wade and what he's done to the defense is a pleasant surprise, and as long as Gary sticks to offense and lets Wade do what he wants on D, the Texans should be good. Free agency this year was the most exciting time I've ever had being a Texans fan.
     
  4. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    73,755
    Likes Received:
    20,250
    I never in a million years would have believed that Wade Phillips could turn around this defense so quickly. Not like this. I thought the ceiling was making it a middle-of-the-road squad...not a team capable of closing games on its own.

    I still find myself waiting for the Texans to pull a Texans...but honestly, I don't think that's coming this season. I think they win this division and make the playoffs for the first time in franchise history.
     
  5. solid

    solid Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,957
    Likes Received:
    7,047
    I am not with you YET; too many years of disappointment to jump on any bandwagon. I am cautiously optimistic. Very cautious! I am not even convinced that they are going to get by the Browns. I am not even sure they will win a game in November, something they have rarely done. The Texans are the ultimate NFL "tease." I know, this MAY be the year, but I will wait and see.
     
  6. DieHard Rocket

    DieHard Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2000
    Messages:
    9,386
    Likes Received:
    1,114
    I have much more confidence in this team now that we have the ability to make plays on defense, but they still need to win a big game, or a game they're really not supposed to win, to completely win me over. Their next opportunity for that will likely come in the playoffs (Atlanta at home should be a win).

    The Steelers looks like a big win in retrospect, and we did dominate the line of scrimmage, but their o-line was in shambles that game. Still a worthy win but not a sign of big things to come IMO. If we would have beaten the Ravens or Saints I might feel differently.

    Long story short...I'm still a pessimist until Kubiak wins a big game/playoff game.
     
  7. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,093
    I know right?? I remember thinking Ric was putting way too much into what Phillips would do with the defense, yet here we are and Phillips has even exceeded what Ric was predicting.

    Holy. Crap.

    That said, I'm still hesitant to go full-out optimist just yet. Too many times being burned; this team still has something to prove for this lifer.

    Go Texans!
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    I hope this doesn't jinx it. :(
     
  9. macalu

    macalu Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    16,761
    Likes Received:
    635
    there haven't been many times this season that i dreaded a punt or going for it on 4th down and failing. it's a testament to what Wade has done to this defense.
     
  10. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,201
    Likes Received:
    4,880
    How about facing a 3rd and anything beyond 7 yards? Last year, those were 3-0 strikes, they were so automatic. I remember the Eagle game, Philadelphia faced a... I'm pretty sure it was 3rd and 17 - stop 'em, as 99.99999% of every defense ever in the hsitory of mankind would have, and the game is still in reach. And they, of course, converted.
     
  11. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    36,832
    Likes Received:
    13,217
    Where's the thread for the smart Texans fan? The one that knew we had a horrible team last season despite getting off to a seemingly good start?

    The one who says "fool me once, shame on you..." or "I don't trust this team, they've let me down before." -- oh wait, that's not us, because we observed the performance on the field and knew better.

    Where's the thread for us that complained last season after not going after any significant free agents and expecting a rookie CB to cover Reggie Wayne, Kenny Britt and Mike Sims-Walker 6 times, but were ecstatic when we were rumored to be chasing Nnadmi, then landing Manning & Jospeh?

    A lot of us that were formerly pessimistic don't see it that way -- we simply made astute observations. This team is different. This team can actually play defense. And guess what -- Kubiak is still a below average head coach.
     
    3 people like this.
  12. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,201
    Likes Received:
    4,880
    I think it also speaks volumes to how uniformly overwhelmed Frank Bush was. When they fired Richard Smith, I was dead-set sure they were going to bring in Mike Nolan, a Denver pipeline guy and an experienced defensive coordinator. The hiring of Bush may very well be the single-worst decision in the franchise's history. It may have cost us two years of playoffs.
     
  13. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,737
    Likes Received:
    39,399
    Like this post.
     
  14. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,500
    Likes Received:
    17,219
    DonnyMost likes this.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    35,693
    Likes Received:
    7,721
    This is it! It's the same one.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that, because we're 5-3, Kubiak should get Coach of the Year and be re-signed for the next 20 years. I'm still not a fan, frankly.

    All I'm saying is I'm willing to give this team a chance to redeem itself for the abortion of a season last year was. And unlike a certain haiku-writing poster here, I'm not going to sit here at the end of the season and say that all 12 of our wins were in spite of Gary Kubiak. Credit where credit is due.
     
  16. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,846
    Likes Received:
    18,564
    I'm cautiously optimistic. Lucy has @#$%ed with me way too many times.

    The only thing standing in ourr way is well, ourselves.
     
    1 person likes this.
  17. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    I don't love some of Kubiak's clock management, red- hanky throwing, or play- calling at times.

    But he built this offense. And it's a darn good one.

    Sometimes you take the good with the bad, and it's hard to be pessimistic with what we've seen so far.

    Oh, and Andre will be back!
     
  18. leroy

    leroy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    26,391
    Likes Received:
    9,625
    I'm not there, yet. Once they avoid the possibility of 5-7 again, I'll be closer. Once they win 10, I'll be even closer. Once they clinch an actual playoff spot, I'll be 100% there.

    Until next season.
     
  19. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,737
    Likes Received:
    39,399
    So basically you think this team has a great offensive coordinator but is lacking in the head coach responsibilities. :cool:
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    Ha, that's a good way of putting it.

    Holding out hope that Kubiak learns to become a great HC though.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now