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Former astronaut speaks out on global warming

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by OddsOn, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. OddsOn

    OddsOn Contributing Member

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    Former astronaut speaks out on global warming

    Former astronaut speaks out on global warming

    By Associated Press
    Sunday, February 15, 2009 - Added 22h ago

    SANTA FE, N.M. - Former astronaut Harrison Schmitt, who walked on the moon and once served New Mexico in the U.S. Senate, doesn’t believe that humans are causing global warming.

    "I don’t think the human effect is significant compared to the natural effect," said Schmitt, who is among 70 skeptics scheduled to speak next month at the International Conference on Climate Change in New York.

    Schmitt contends that scientists "are being intimidated" if they disagree with the idea that burning fossil fuels has increased carbon dioxide levels, temperatures and sea levels.

    "They’ve seen too many of their colleagues lose grant funding when they haven’t gone along with the so-called political consensus that we’re in a human-caused global warming," Schmitt said.

    Dan Williams, publisher with the Chicago-based Heartland Institute, which is hosting the climate change conference, said he invited Schmitt after reading about his resignation from The Planetary Society, a nonprofit dedicated to space exploration.

    Schmitt resigned after the group blamed global warming on human activity. In his resignation letter, the 74-year-old geologist argued that the "global warming scare is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making."

    Williams said Heartland is skeptical about the crisis that people are proclaiming in global warming.

    "Not that the planet hasn’t warmed. We know it has or we’d all still be in the Ice Age," he said. "But it has not reached a crisis proportion and, even among us skeptics, there’s disagreement about how much man has been responsible for that warming."

    Schmitt said historical documents indicate average temperatures have risen by 1 degree per century since around 1400 A.D., and the rise in carbon dioxide is because of the temperature rise.

    Schmitt also said geological evidence indicates changes in sea level have been going on for thousands of years. He said smaller changes are related to changes in the elevation of land masses — for example, the Great Lakes are rising because the earth’s crust is rebounding from being depressed by glaciers.

    Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.

    In 1972, he was one of the last men to walk on the moon as part of the Apollo 17 mission.

    Schmitt said he’s heartened that the upcoming conference is made up of scientists who haven’t been manipulated by politics.

    Of the global warming debate, he said: "It’s one of the few times you’ve seen a sizable portion of scientists who ought to be objective take a political position and it’s coloring their objectivity."
     
  2. MadMax

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    Sam and B-Bob:

    I did not start this thread.
     
  3. OddsOn

    OddsOn Contributing Member

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    Are they the resident brown shirts reporting to the global warming czar? :rolleyes:
     
  4. surrender

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    That crown of thorns must feel pretty heavy
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the scientists are taking over the wooorlllllldddd

    mwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
     
  6. BigBenito

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    Calling people Nazis is way out of line, but you're forgiven, because when I hear brown shirts... I think Brown Coats and Firefly kicked major arse.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    He was in space, so he knows more.
     
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    Edgar Mitchell comes to mind.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    That was my reaction too - he's an astronaut, so what? - but he's a geologist and probably knows enough to have an opinion.
     
  10. OddsOn

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    I didn't call anybody anything, I leave that up to samifisher to lob the insults.
    I just found Madmax comment funny and couldn't resist a repy.
     
  11. BigBenito

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    Sure, pal.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    so says the former Republican Senator from NM...:confused:

    In order to contribute something of value, here's a great post on realclimate.org btw about a recent study of warming in antarctica and the comical efforts of the GW Denier industry to rebut it, and how the popular media buys into the denier/contrarian game sometimes.

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.ph...eception-to-antarctic-warming-story/#more-644
     
    #12 SamFisher, Feb 17, 2009
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    I've said this in these type of debates so many times that I might as well cut and paste this.

    I think there is a strong likelyhood that Global Warming is being caused or at least accelerated by man made activities. If we address those activities and it turns out that man made activities aren't contributing to Global Warming well we would've eliminated our dependency on fossil fuels, cleaned up our air more developed renewable energy sources and greatly increased our energy efficiency. So even if global warming isn't as a great of a threat or not a threat the benefits of addressing it have so many side benefits that for those side reasons alone we should be doing what is needed to combat global warming.
     
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    I wonder what his thoughts are on the economic crisis, evolution, abortion, Iraq, torture, and baseball.
     
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    Based on his rather silly opinion of global warming, he is probably a cubs fan.

    For the record, I know a former astronaut who thinks humans are causing global warming. (seriously)

    OMGWTFBBQ!!!~!!!~!@1

    OddsOn's world explodes.
     
  16. Grizzled

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    I concur. The frustrating thing about this issue is that there is a lot of politics on either end of the spectrum, and that makes it hard to weed through all the disinformation to get to the good information.

    Here’s an article related to this issue.

    Recent cold snap helping Arctic sea ice, scientists find
    http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/02/15/arctic-ice.html

    This doesn’t mean that global warming isn’t happening, of course. No single year proves that one way or the other, but it is good news for the planet, and bad news for the attention seeking doom and gloomers.
     
  17. MadMax

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    You're a denier and a skeptic. I question your motives and your very soul. SHUN! SHUUUUUNNNNNNNNNN!!!
    ;)
     
  18. SamFisher

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    It is bad news if you transpose it with arguments that aren't being made.
     
  19. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    He's also a highly educated geologist on top of that:

    Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    i understand where you'e coming from, but its the deniers who question the motive, and that's my issue. why would people think there is a giant conspiracy on this issue?
     

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