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Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 31, 2022.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    My guess is that once this wave is over for the US, maybe 2-4 weeks from now, we will roll back most of the remaining mandates. The federal government already went with the “Let It Rip” strategy and most of the kids will have had omicron variant COVID when this wave is over. My kids and all the other kids in our social circles got it this round.

    Masks did not hurt the children. The pandemic did. The kids probably won’t be ok. But who is to say they were promised anything else.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Singapore doesn't force children under 6 to wear a mask but many Singaporean parents voluntarily do so. Also Singapore has an outdoor mask mandate which most countries don't. Also note not all US states or cities are the same. In Minneapolis which is the bluest part of a state that went comfortably for Biden there is currently an indoor mask mandate but no outdoor mask mandate and that indoor one doesn't apply to young children either. Most of MN doesn't require masks at all.
    Again I largely agree with this that doesn't change that rhetoric of "child abuse" or "The Left" is helpful. All it does is harden partisan positions.
     
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    Masks aren't really for the kid's sake. It's well known that COVID isn't as serious in the younger kids. It's more about not spreading the virus to everyone else. Wearing a mask doesn't hurt anybody.

    I will agree that it's difficult for a toddler to wear a mask. I'd say the cutoff should be 4.
     
  4. IBTL

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    lol that was the whole point
     
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    I don't know the detailed demographics for last years rise in children's hospitals but Delta obviously changed the dynamics for harsher guidelines.

    I was in the camp reserving judgement for 5-10 yr olds taking vaccines, but I haven't paid attention to the latest trial numbers.

    I think the runts will do fine. It's likely the mental stress burden lies among the high school and college aged folks, where there's a stronger drive to rebel and play the numbers. The other half among those groups, who are following rules and getting isolated up the butt...watch out for those dear souls,

    Covid is still mostly an Old Man's Disease.
     
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    Who is the "left"? Because from my understanding and experience "the left" doesn't really hammer on with Covid restrictions. That isn't their lane. They mostly care about economic reform rhetoric.

    The hardest proponents of masks are your moderate suburban neo-liberal Democrat and the representatives who represent that demographic like Nancy Pelosi and Shumer.
     
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    I am in this post and I don’t like it.
     
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    I know, it is pretty common. It became a habit.

    In Asian countries they wear masks voluntarily when they got a cold.
     
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    Flu gone. Covid - well, many people think it doesn't help, but geez, it's an airborne virus, so it helps. 1200 US kids dead of covid. It does help them. Some of them eagerly want to mask to avoid getting sick. Some not so much. But to just say it doesn't help... no, it does help. The better question I think would be what are the tradeoff. Mask is pretty easy. This western society makes such a stink about it. It's kind of amazing to watch.
     
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    That's right. When I was over there, I was shocked at that behavior. Then I thought, dam, that's is caring for others. One positive out of this is more Americans will behave like this - more will mask up when they are sick.
     
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    tyranny sounds pretty scary ;)
     
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    So the left is hysterical? Equating mask wearing to child abused is hysterical.
    My son was in first grade last year and had to wear a mask. This year he didn’t wear a mask. I’ve noticed no difference in his mental health or the quality of his education.

    Kids are resilient. A piece of cloth on their face during a pandemic isn’t a big deal. They quickly adjusted and they’ll forget about it in no time.
     
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    I supported masks, especially when this virus was new and far more deadly. In fact the idiots that refused to wear masks were a public health risk and should have been treated as such. However we are far better at treating COVID and the variants have become less deadly as my wife and her friends at the CDC privately expected would happen.

    I don't think it is wrong to ask people on a train to wear a mask in high outbreak areas like downtown Chicago. However, the mask mandate for school children in the USA needs to end. Not being able to see emotions and words formed and lipped has a real tangible impact on the development of younger school children. The USA in particular is going to have an entire generation that has a cognitive disadvantage.

    This is a wider sweeping issue though, people in the USA now fall inline with whatever their political party says or whatever is the opposite of the President that they vilify.
     
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    It's puzzling how anti-maskers consider a mask so difficult to wear. You are probably in poor health or severely out of shape if breathing through a surgical mask is difficult for you, which means you're at high risk of dying from COVID so you should probably wear a mask to not die.
     
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    I wonder how you anti-mask assholes would have fared 100 years ago during the Spanish Flu.
     
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    I thought the original rule we had that kids under 10 need not mask was fine, though I know kids younger than that who could wear masks for long periods of time and wanted to wear one. Now with vaccines widespread, I really don't care if kids mask up or not. I don't really understand the strong feelings on either side of it, honestly.

    I do know a number of teachers who complain about how disruptive all the covid absences are, so masks in school seems like a pretty practical idea to me just to get some incremental benefit.

    Parenting-wise, I like that kids are participating and doing their part in the response to the pandemic. They need to see that their choices matter in the world. They should learn that sometimes they should make personal sacrifices for someone else's benefit. They need to see they don't live in a perfect parent-curated bubble where they are at no risk in the world. They need the training for the next pandemic. My kids are in a good place for that. But, I also don't get alarmed (or even notice really) if someone else's kid is unmasked. His personal risk is tiny and I'm vaccinated, so whatever.
     
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    WW2 degenerates!
     
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