Not exactly. Depends on what Toronto wants. They may want NYs future picks more than anything and see Brooks as a great bonus for the deal. What if Minny steps in and says "We'd give you Jefferson for Bosh!" okay does Toronto want Jefferson? Does Bosh want to go to Minny? There are a lot of varibles to this whole thing. What if they really love Brooks game? Then our offer would be high on their list no matter what other teams throw at them. It's about what Toronto wants, not what we think is gutting our team or not. Look back at Amar'e. The Suns did not want Beasley, they rather would have had Hixon according to reports. Now most people were like "WHAT!?!?" but that's how THEY saw it. If you think a package of Brooks-Scola-Battier is gutting our team. Idk why. Lowry would step in as starting point and we know Morey would draft or find someone to back him up. Bosh would replace Scola. Battier would be replaced by Ariza and Budinger. Not exactly gutting.
Giving up three players out of your starting rotation, including two very good players in Scola and Brooks, is gutting your team. There is no other way to look at it. Besides, Brooks + Scola + Battier wouldn't get it done. You're going to get into things like throwing in Hill or Budinger or multiple picks.
Not gutting your team. Lowry would start at PG, is that really a dropoff? We'd be thin at PG but Morey would address that, you know that. It'd be the only spot we'd be thin at also. Bosh >>>> Scola so how is that gutting your team? Also again, You don't know what Toronto wants, so you can't say "That won't get it done." because you also don't know what other offers they would get. If Toronto goes into the dealings with "We NEED to get something back for Bosh..." Our deal of Brooks and two veteran starting players plus a draft pick or two could be the best offer on the table. Other teams don't have 3 future draft picks to hand out. Also I don't see the Rockets dealing two PFs (Scola+Hill) for Bosh especially if Brooks is also in the deal. You can never underestimate desperation. Morey should have taught everyone this. Look at the Knicks, they were desperate to get closer to two Mas FAs, they were willing to give us TWO possible draft picks. They have sold their future for this opportunity. Sometimes teams get desperate for just getting something in return. Brooks+two veteran players (Battier, Scola)+ Future draft picks is a really good deal. Unless you think Brooks is not a all-star capable PG, he's the same age as Bosh also. The only other team I can think of off the top of my head that has more to offer maybe the 6ers. They have Iggy...but then again he's a bit older than Brooks and this year you could argue that Brooks is the better player... It's not that impossible to think that Brooks with a few other assets could land us Bosh. Brooks Derozan Turkoglu Scola Bargnani That's not a bad lineup at all.
3 players that are leading the Rockets to the lottery. We have all seen what a difference maker an elite player like Artest or Bosh can do. Giving up those 3 is easy. Yao, Bosh, Ariza, Martin, Lowry is a much better line up. Morey will pick up more players like Battier/Brooks/Scola through trade/free agency/draft.
Yes, but we're not going to get into that here. If by "thin at PG" you mean "having only a decent backup point guard and nothing else", then yes. We would be horribly, terribly thin at point guard after this trade. The whole point is that it's NOT just for Scola. It's for Brooks, Scola, and Battier, who together definitely exceed Bosh's production, and also are not putting all our eggs in one basket, AND are less expensive in the long run.
Last I checked, we have the same W/L record as Toronto, and Toronto plays in a much easier conference.
Last I checked,Scola is a free agent next year and can choose were he wants to play.So why would he want to play in Toronto
No, Lowry isn't a dropoff at all. Morey would address the glaring need of backup PG. Most likely right in the draft as I don't see how he'd get rid of this years draft pick no matter what. Hell he may take back a Marcus banks in the trade or involve another team to get a backup. No, not really. Bosh has achieved more individually in his career than those 3 combined. Also you seem to ignore the fact that Bosh would REPLACE Scola. You make it seem like we would not get a PF back. Also no reason to have 3 good wing players. That's over abundance at one position. Martin/Battier/Ariza/Budinger thats why people always think one of them will be traded. That is our strongest position right now, so taking from that position is not gutting your team. Also idk why Scola would want to play for Toronto. It's not a bad place at all Scola seems like the type of guy who really would not mind at all playing there. It does have that kind of international feel, and also another thing the GM there loves international players (just take one look at their roster.) A deal involving Scola/Brooks IN HIS MIND COULD BE the best deal he's ever going to get for Bosh. AGAIN there are a lot of variables in this.
A player like Scola is all about wining.He could care less about money or playing somewhere with international feel and never win a ring.
What he has said clearly showed he has no heart of champions. Does he know basketball is a team game? As good as Kobe, he could not even pass the first round with Gasol. We don't need a person like him. Come on, Morey, don't screw us. A person like him will ruin our chemistry. All we need is a decent backup C and keep healthy, then we will be another citizen team win the title like Detroid did in 2004.
For years, fans have wanted a 3rd star player to help the team get a ring. Now, we arguing for Morey to forget about getting Bosh, but keep Mr. Intangibles and Scola. It will win a ring.
Why is there a 6 page thread about a Feb. 12 article that was already beat to death a month ago? Analysis: FAIL
Im afraid I can't accept your analysis until I see some sort of f-test, t-test, or perhaps a confidence interval.
I just became a Bulls fan! Hope the Bulls knock the Raptors outta the playoffs! Bosh aint gonna want to re-sign with the Raps. Hope we make a major push for him in the offseason!
Good luck with that Healthy part.... If we have a chance at Bosh Morey will do the right thing and take it (and Moery will get a heck of a deal)!!! I agree we need a backup C... Marcus Camby would be perfect IMO... he can play significant minutes and reduce injury risk for Yao...
