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For the Tmac haters(AKA the bandwagon fans)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jVgOwnsYou, Mar 19, 2008.

  1. sabesque

    sabesque Member

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    Here's what rubs me the wrong way about McGrady:

    When times are good he's a self-proclaimed superstar, he's an allstar and a leader. When things are going so well he's tired, he's hurt, his teammates need to do more, he needs more around him.

    We need to be realistic about the guy. He's an upper-level shooting guard. He's not a leader. He's going to play well and contribute to us winning, but he's not going to consistantly win us games, which is what we've come to expect from superstars.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    tmac has said several times he's "just one of the guys" and said during the winning streak we're doing all this "without any all-stars."

    i don't like it when posters really take things out of context.
     
  3. sabesque

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    That's the thing... If you want to fly under the radar, then don't act like a superstar. Act like Luis Scola or Carl Landry.
     
  4. t_mac1

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    has he ever acted like one since he returned from injury? he never said he was the best player of the team. he never said he has to carry the whole load when yao is out. he never said he was a star.

    instead, he has said he sucked when he did before the ASB. he said he's just "one of the guys." he said yao is our best player repeatedly like it was no argument. he has said this team is a bunch of "non-all-stars."

    yesterday, he moved the ball around a lot b/c he knows he needs a team effort.

    so really, how has he try to act like a "superstar" in your opinion? dude had a bad 3 game stretch (REALLY bad). that's it. :rolleyes:
     
  5. ShadyMcGrady

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    OK first of all he has said multiple times this season that Yao is the superior player and that the run was team effort. He has also admitted earlier in the year that he sucked. He said it, he addressed it, he got over it. And he's known to speak his mind, and say things that sound dumb, so you would think the occasional quote isn't taken like words of wisdom from Confucious or someone...

    so now you people are all over the "tired" quote during a halftime interview!!!! It was freaking halftime interview she asked him why he had no points, he said it was tired and he's feeling it in his legs but then he said he'd get himself going in the second half.

    You really need to move on.
     
  6. sabesque

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    And there's my point...

    What's your point?
     
  7. sabesque

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    sorry, that second quote should be from me. Fixed:

     
  8. ShadyMcGrady

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    My point was stop dissecting everything the guy says. Yes, it's not good to say you are tired during an interview, and that shouldn't be an excuse for poor play, but T-Mac says these things. That's one thing you're just going to have to deal with. Believe me, I wish he didn't say it either. I wish he just said "I don't know but I have to get myself going". But then people would say "how can McGrady not know wtf is wrong with him!?"

    The coaching staff has had no problem with what he says, it's only the fans looking for an excuse to blame a loss on.

    I can't believe you think McGrady only contributes to us winning and won't consistently win us games. What he did last night was not contribute, he led us to a victory. What everyone else did was contribute.

    He took it upon himself to play aggressively, to get to the hole, and when he couldn't get a foul call, he reverted to his jumpshot. Oh no right? Wrong. It was going for him all night and he milked it. He shut the crowd up tons of times and killed any chance the Warriors had at taking the momentum. Then he tried going to the basket again a coupe of times it didn't work out so he kept shooting, and kept hitting. The only shot I think he shouldn't have taken last night was that 3 at the end when he tried to put the game away. But other than that, I have no complaints.

    He LED the team. Landry of course was a MAJOR part of the win, but who else do you think led the team? Leading is not always verbal. T-Mac led by his actions.
     
  9. BackNthDay

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    All Tmac needs is some consistent scoring from Scola, Landry, Jackson, and Alston. The PG and PF are the keys to our victories.
     
  10. swhcgd

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    t-mac is a good player
     
  11. badgerfan

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    I couldn't disagree more. The way to win with T-Mac is to surround him with gutsy veterans like Sura and Barry, guys who are going to step up and get the job done without the need for being led. T-Mac's a great player but he's not a leader.

    Same thing with Yao, who will try and lead by example but who isn't a step up and take charge kind of guy. Both the stars are going to be much more comfortable on a team filled with vets who know what they need to do and do it without being told to.
     
  12. kalmanfilter

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    TMAC's passing is at genius level, much better than his counterparts w/ top salaries. TMAC makes teammates better. I am expecting something this season, probably conference final..... Next season Rox will be unstopable, Sclolandry, a better Rafer, TMAC, Yao, Shane..... Rockets will have to be counted as contender.
     
  13. jasonemilio

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    Well, I think the only way to please these Tmac haters is to have:

    1) Have Tmac change his name and identity. Erase all of his playoffs history.
    Bandwagon fans (which includes 90% of sports writers) only look at his playoff history and judge him based only on that. They refuse to believe in the concept of TEAM sports.

    2) The Rockets basically have to win a Championship at the very least to shut them up. Or a playoff win , otherwise they will just keep blaming it on Tmac, underserved or not.

    3) Change Tmac's sexual identity because some Tmac haters apparently like calling him T-Lady, or "Tracy Mclady" I don't know why, but they must like those kind of things. :rolleyes: I guess everyone rolls in a different way :rolleyes:

    4) If we would've won 10 more straight games, but even then I doubt they will get off his back.
     
  14. jasonemilio

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    Dear Shaq, I think I really shouldn't have booted you out. I don't think we wouldn't have blown that 3-1 lead on the Suns in the playoffs if you were still with us.
    -Signed Kobe Bean Bryant.
     
  15. Rivaldo2181

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    T-mac can't win either way. When we're struggling in mediocrity and T-Mac was getting his stats everyone was b****in and moaning that he doesn't want to play Adelman's system and even went so far as to say he was faking injuries to pout. Then he comes back from injury, offers to come off the bench so to not disrupt the chemistry built while he was out, then plays within the system as a starter and takes over games when needed but doesn't put up eye popping numbers and the haters say he is not a superstar, has declined, is not motivated...blah blah blah...damm if he does, damm if doesn't. Plain and simple, the Rockets are 1 game out of first in the West, enjoy the ride and put aside your personal hatred for him...we're lucky to have him on this team.
     
  16. Angkor Wat

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    Exactly. When he plays within the system and isn't putting up big numbers, everyone gets on him for not playing like a Kobe or LeBron. Then, when he puts up the big numbers and takes over the game, fans start b****ing about him ball hogging, stalling the offense and not getting him teammates involved.
     
  17. BarkleyHater84

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    I agree. It indeed takes 5 and he is my MVP even if he is noone else's. I am a hardcore Rox fan, and I can care less what any hater or doubter has to say. Hakeem is the greatest ever, and Yao and T-Mac WILL bring us a championship(eventually). And to all you bandwagon NY Giant fans, do me a favor and jump off. Because when all you idiots were crticizing Eli, you failed to remember it takes 3-5 yrs. for a QB to develop, sometimes longer. He is MVP and maybe T-Mac can pull the same thing come playoff time....thank you.
     
  18. BarkleyHater84

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    Oh, and by the way, for all of you Kobe lovers:
    He hasn't won a ployoff series since Shaq left......They could've put any star SG (T-Mac, A.I., Vince, etc.) next to Shaq when he was THAT DOMINANT and won 3 titles. Honestly, it probably should've been more. Thank you.
     
  19. luisantonio1014

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    Dude, have you not watched the playoffs in 05 and last year? He averaged over 30 points and over 10 assists each game! the rest of the team shut down in both game 7's.
     
  20. luisantonio1014

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    yea Kobe is overrated! He's a really good scorer, but he ain't MJ. I hate how the Lakers are overrated this year, as if they are an elite team. It's the first time they might win 50+ games since Shaq left and all of a sudden they are favorites to win the Finals. When the Sonics won 50 games a couple of years ago, no one said they were favorites. We've won 50 games in the past and weren't considered favorites. The NBA and ESPN love their lakers. Anytime they get a little hot, they are champions.
     

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