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For supporters of Palin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    She's new on the national stage while Obama has been on Oprah twice!

    It would be just beyond stupid for the Republicans to throw her to the wolves without some time to prepare her. Obama's been preparing for years and Biden for decades.

    Seems to me that Palin was just about as surprised as anyone to be tabbed the VP candidate. She deserves some time to get the polish; I understand why her opponents wouldn't want to give her the advantage of an almost level playing field.
     
  2. glynch

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    Earmarks? Using political power to take revenge on personal enemies?
    Banning books? Creationism as science? Vetoing homes for poor unwed mothers? Denying the role of the human population in global warming?

    Oh I know she claims to be a "reformer".
     
  3. A_3PO

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    For me, throwing her to the wolves involves answering questions about her past. She should be ready for that very quickly, wouldn't you agree? Asking her detailed questions about foreign policy and economic issues is pretty worthless because she's just going to parrot what McCain's handlers tell her to say. That is obvious. People can stick to issues involving her "executive experience". No need to wait on that.
     
  4. Refman

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    I could vote "present" 130 times in the state legislature too...it doesn't mean that I exercise good judgment.
     
  5. Refman

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    Sigh. She never said she was against earmarks, just their abuse.

    Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

    Name one book Palin banned.

    Mentioning creationism as an alternative view in a discussion of evolution is merely giving credence to the views of many. Never did she advocate removing evolution as the thrust of the science class. Never did she advocate presenting any scientific base for creationism. I would think that respect for the views of other groups and a choice amongst ideas would be appealing to the left. I guess as long as it is a choice of views that the left finds acceptable. Hmmmm....

    On what terms? What was the actual legislation? You are leaving out a TON of things. There are a myriad of situations in which doing the right thing the wrong way is detrimental overall.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    she won't ban guns.


    anymore questions?
     
  7. Refman

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    Damnit man. Didn't you know that if we banned guns there would be no crime, unemployment would plummet, drug abuse would stop, and we'd all live in the mythical land of milk and honey?

    I can't believe I typed that with a straight face. :D
     
  8. lpbman

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    So if there is no scientific basis for creationism, why present it in a science class? Why don't we start teaching Native American beliefs as to how life came about? Or any other religion for that matter? Would you think it fair if your kid came home talking about embryonic development from the Qur'an?

    If it's not science, it doesn't belong.... period.
     
  9. SWTsig

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    yeah, it has nothing to do with actual scientific observations proven over a period of time via the scientific method. none whatsoever. let's just throw every fairy tale in science classes as well, seeing as though they have just as much merit as anything the bible states.

    the fact that there are people alive and willing to vote that truly believe this nonsense should be taught to our children as science makes me want to bash my head on my desk.
     
  10. durvasa

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    If they're not presenting a scientific base for creationism, I don't see why it should be discussed in a science class.

    Edit: I guess I was late on that one.
     
  11. rcoleman15

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    It is doubtful she will ever try to push creationism in schools. In fact in 2006 she said if she was elected governor she would promise to never push the matter. To date she has held true to that promise.

    Now this is just me but until she says otherwise I believe she will hold true to this on the national stage as well.

    AP article on this:

    Palin has not pushed creation science as governor
     
  12. Space Ghost

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    Very few know Palin and the tad bit they do know is the smear campaign brought against her. All politicians face this. What has been brought are issues that really don't mean much. Ok, so she supported a bridge and then changed her mind. Kept them money? Who wouldn't if they could.

    From what i've seen, I think she exposes obama's campaign line of "change". I don't understand the obama obsession. As opposed to obama, she stands by decision; She doesn't pander to get more votes. I am not saying she'll be a great VP, but I have more confidence in her words than most who have been in office.

    As far as experience, very few elected presidents have been ready for this job. Yes, every four years we get a chance for a new leader, but they surround themselves by the same people who have been around for decades. Politics rarely change.
     
  13. rocket3forlife2

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    You republicans love to lie and spin!

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  14. mc mark

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    Looks like these people believe it is...

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  15. Faos

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    And to judge her by an interviewer with an agenda ripping her pregnant daughter and family to threads is just as silly.

    I'm willing to bet she will do interviews soon, but I don't blame them for weeding out the Olbermans in the media. Like I said, it would be like having Obama interviewed by Hannity.

    I'll post this before someone else does:

    Biden challenges Palin to take questions

    By MIKE ALLEN | 9/7/08 10:10 AM EST

    Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) is accusing the McCain campaign of sequestering Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, his counterpart on the Republican ticket, and challenged her Sunday to sit for network interviews.

    “She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”

    The McCain campaign says Palin will eventually do interviews, but none are scheduled.


    Biden, too, took a weekend off from the Sunday shows after he was named as running mate for Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).


    During the interview, Biden also repeated his previous view that “life begins at the moment of conception,” the same position as Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

    “For me, as a Roman Catholic, I’m prepared to accept the teachings of my church,” Biden told Brokaw. “I’m prepared, as a matter of faith, to accept that life begins at the moment of conception.

    “But that is my judgment. For me to impose that judgment on everyone else, who is equally — and maybe even more — devout than I am, seems to me is inappropriate in a pluralistic society.”

    Aides said that is Biden’s longtime position – the answer he always gives.

    Brokaw asked Biden how he could have that view and also vote for abortion rights.

    “No … I have voted against curtailing the right – criminalizing abortion,” Biden replied. “I have voted against telling everyone else in the country that they have to accept my religiously based view that it’s a moment of conception."

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13218.html
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    this is such a stupid line of logic if only because obama has been on the politcal scene since the 04 convention. he's not a novelty. its funny to here republicans make this comparison when probably probably greater than 75% never heard of her till last week
     
  17. A_3PO

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    Say what? Do you honestly believe there is any chance Palin will submit to a hostile interview? If you do, I have a bridge for sale. Thanks for bringing up a straw man.
     
  18. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Is it a bridge to nowhere? If so, Palin will first agree to the interview, then later say she is against it.
     
  19. Faos

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    Yeah. You're right.

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  20. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Faos, congratulations. You've posted ten or so Obama-related posts in a thread that asks why you support Palin? So your answer: "because I'm obsessed with hating Obama!"

    CaseyH gave us a real answer: Palin supports guns. Someone else said she presents herself well.

    Refman gave his version of the most extreme criticisms of her.

    So... on page 3 after the OP's question, we only have two reasons: Palin supports guns. And she can be an entertaining speaker. I assume another reason one could support her would be her pro-life stance.

    My Dad is smitten with her. I asked him yesterday why, and he said he just loved her speech. I asked him about her policies, about any substance in her speech. "Oh, I don't like her policies. I just like her." So, there it is. A retired scientist and engineer who will vote for a ticket with a science-negative candidate who doesn't support any of his views. :confused:

    My Mom, by the way, also in her 70's, hates Palin.

    I know people talk about Obama "coolaid," but at least Obama supporters tend to agree with his policies. :)
     

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