For argument sake: Would you trade francis for kidd?

There are 7 players that would be no brainer trade right now for Francis: Pierce, Kobe, Nowitzski, Ray Allen, Wallace, Duncan. I would add KG to the list if his contract weren't ridiculous.

Then there are 10 or so others I might consider such as:Brand, Stackhouse, Odom, Carter, Jamison, Davis, Rip, J Oneal

 

Taiters ... uh, sorry, I mean, traders. Please let's know there is no sarcasm involved. I am bad at appreciating black humors.

Could you please elaborate a little bit on those 7 no brainers in the Rockets standpoint? I state my 2c first.

Steve vs Piece: the steal of the centry for Boston. Piece will be a third string player in all those West contenders, a.k.a., the NBA championship contenders. Way overrated.

Steve vs Kobe: oops, my bad.

Steve vs Nowitzski: trade Yao for Dirk makes more sense for the Rockets than this one.

Steve vs Allen: the robbery of the West. I don't trust jump shooters in the last two minutes of a championship game.

Steve vs Wallace: Rasheed, resounding no. Ben, intrigueing but still no.

Steve vs Duncan: um, Pop, are you drunk.

For 10 or others, except for Brand, it's an insult to Steve and the Rockets organization if they even contemplate for just a second.

 

The question is whether SF can ever get to the level of Kidd now and how long is it going to take and if by any chance SF get to that level, how long is he going to stay at his prime.

I think Kidd will be interested in coming here. Net doesn't have much potential left and there is no chance he will get a ring if he stays. If he comes to houston, he can play at this level for another 3-5 years and get a good chance of getting a title ring.

For Rox, it is much better to have an experienced leader while Yao grows to be dominant. If Rox stick with SF-Yao, there is chance that both of them will fail.

 

Imagine a clever PG who is famous for his passing skill team-up with a smart center who can pass. WOW!

Houston better butter up Kidd now and find away to convince him to play for them before San Antonio does. The Rockets gonna have a tough tough time beating the Spurs for many years to come if Kidd decides to play for the Spurs. Two brains are better than one.

 

The question is, how much better than Francis is Kidd in the halfcourt?

We saw Yao Ming trying to run with the Mavs last time. Let's be honest, you know Yao Ming isn't going to be a "runner". We saw what Mutombo did to the Nets earlier in the season.

Is Kidd better than Francis enough in the halfcourt to offset the 4 more million he'd make, in addition to being 3 years older?

 

Maybe we should see how Steve does in the playoffs a couple of years before we trade him

 

Mutombo is an ancient relic, he's not as clever nor he has the offensive and passing skills even comparing to the rookie now. Yao has a good chance to be a defensive force like Mutombo or even exceed him in the next few years.

Last night, the Wizards game, I was amazed by how well yao runs, particularly, on one play late in the 4th quarter of the Rockets comeback. He grabbed a defensive rebound passed it to Steve, who has a good head start for the fast break, then some how Yao outran everybody to the other end of the court to receive an alley-oop pass from Steve. I never seen anybody that tall could push his body like that. I think Yao can run with anybody once he gets his NBA stamina.

I believe Yao would definitely work well with Kidd. He needs a smart veteran PG like Kidd to accelerate his development to a higher level.

 

Just which player in the world wouldn't benefit playing with Kidd?

But end this argument now. That's no chance of that happening.

 

Just want to add... I could imagine that even I could score a few baskets running with Kidd!

 

no argument there but if there's a chance to get Kidd why not?not all players have the chance to benefit from playing with Kidd.

 

Why there's a chance? New Jersey wouldn't do this trade ever.

It's like talking about trading Yao for Shaq. LA wouldn't do it in a million years.

Pretty meaningless discussion.

 

hell yea

 

You said it. But we're a developing club, not a championship club now. We won't be contending in the very near future until Yao and EG fully develop.

Kidd will either resign with NJ or go to SA.

 

Kidd brings in lots of revenue and exposure to the Nets. There is no way they would trade him.

These trade threads are as stupid as the Rocket's gameplan.

 

I would say the chances of it happening are slim, because you rarely see franchise players traded, but Kidd was recently traded for Marbury, and Payton was recently traded for Ray Allen (with Des Mason as a throw in ), so anything is possible. Kidd would have to want to come here, but maybe playing with Yao and the Cat could entice him away from Duncan. I think New Jersey would certainly rather have Steve than nothing, and we might even convince them to throw in a pick. I think we would have as good a chance as New Jersey if we made such an offer. I would do the trade because I think that Steve will not play off the ball for the majority of the time and he has not shown consistancy as a decision maker. I would rather get a consistant PF like a Brand (or Duncan, but talk about not gonna happen) and a Snow quality PG, but Kidd could do wonders for our offense while turning around our PG defense.

 

No brainer.

 

You're right about the Rox being a developing club. But guess what, so was NJ before Kidd arrived. Kidd will make everyone on this team better. He will even make it look like Rudy knows what the hell hes doing. Yao will become better much faster and will offset any aging Kidd has 3-5 years down the line. At this point, I would offer SF <b>and</b> EG for Kidd and sign a blue-collar 4 (Oakley, Grant type player) for the mid-class exception.

 

Steve francis and other expendables with exception to Yao and Cat for Kidd? YES!
Jason Kidd is an awesome point guard.
But it will never happen. Too many negatives for that to happen. Although, I never thought Pippen would ever play for us,but he did.
But still never gonna happen.