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For all those who wish to criticize Rudy please first admit that you are stupid.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Apr 26, 2003.

  1. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    What the hell does THAT mean?

    I'd still argue that's Boki's fault, not Rudy's. If the kid had as much game as some of you seem to think he does, he'd be on the court. There's not a coach in the league who's stupid enough to keep a great player on the bench when his team obviously needs help at that position.

    Time to face the fact: Boki just isn't that good.
     
  2. ron413

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    Time to face the fact that Boki is going to prove all of you doubters wrong THIS season! We have heard from many sources that Bostjan Nachbar is going to contribute when given some PT. Now is his time to shine!
     
  3. heypartner

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    And some radio hosts said they traded Kenny for being a cancer. I'm not so sure about that, because they could have just booted him to Denver, instead of working the Philly angle for him.
     
  4. SWTsig

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    i might print this post out and hang it on my wall. simply beautiful.
     
  5. topfive

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    If he's sooooooooo good, tell me why he got almost *no* PT this year. And don't blame it on Rudy's penchant for not playing rookies. Apart from the obvious #1 pick, both Hawkins and Maddox got more PT than Boki did. Got an explanation for that?
     
  6. Verbatim

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    On the Boki situation. I think early on in the season Rudy decided that they will "red shirt" Boki for this season no matter what happens so that he will be counted as a "draft boost" next season. Might not be a good idea but that's right out of the horse's mouth. Boki is Rockets 1st round pict next year.

    Why? I surely don't know. Can't really say if Boki was better then the players in front of him. Maybe he's just not ready for the NBA defence requirements. He looks like he can play offense.

    And in may ways, getting Posey cost Boki any chance to PT this season. If Boki can play better then Posey then he would have started. He's a rookie and he was behind Posey, Rice and Morris.

    It's really not his fault to be the 4th option for the SF postion. Besides, him missing training camp because of prevous injuries didn't help him adjust to the NBA.
     
  7. topfive

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    All of which are great reasons that a rookie would get limited playing time. But rookie Nachbar got a grand total of 77 minutes this season, while rookie Hawkins got nearly 700, mostly at SF. That's a huge difference, and while I like the energy Hawkins brings to the game, he's not exactly a rookie sensation.

    And when Rudy made the comment about Boki being "next year's 1st-round pick," he was merely saying he thought the Rox had gotten enough value last year to make up for our lack of a 1st round pick this year. He certainly didn't mean that they planned on benching the kid all year so that the fans would feel better about the draft the following year. That's the wackiest reasoning I've ever heard.
     
  8. Rockets2K

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    I know I missed the game and all, but after meeting you guys, I fail to see how any of the "jrs" could have a problem moving people out of the low block. especially playing against the guys yall were playin against..;)

    LOL @"trash talk", "you've show some skill at that"...
    which one of yall are you right now? I can guess..:D

    btw...I'm stupider than Rudy..
    and imo he deserves to have 2 seasons with Yao to get it together...if he doesn't get it together next year...I will join them in their calls for a new coach.
    Why some of yall persist in using the last 3 years (BY) to denigrate what RT and Co can do are not being fair.

    Before this year, all he had to work with was the ISO Twins, he used this year to attempt to utilize Yao in a way that would be effective, he was not going to get rid of players during the season that didnt get on the bandwagon.
    He now knows who will try to help use Yao and work with him, and will be using the offseason to decide whether or not to get rid of them or not.
    as I said before, This is the year..if he and CD dont rise to the challenge in this coming year...then I will concede that some of you guys are right about getting Riddy of Rudy.,.
     
  9. OmegaSupreme

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    okay... enough!!! :mad: i'll solve this thread once and for all!!!

    here's the deal... the rockets organization and the city of houston's situation is the equivalent of the autobots' situation in "transformers: the movie".

    you see the autobots (the rockets) were no doubt young and some of the most powerful (talented and full of potential) transformers (nba players) on their home planet of cybertron (houston). however, their powerful leader, optimus prime (rudy tomjanovich) was past his prime. prime's old ways (isolation plays) were proven weak when the decepticons (the rest of the nba) and megatron dealt optimus a real schlacking (non-playoff birth) and killed him (fired rudy). without optimus (rudy) the autobots had no one to lead them in saving their planet (houston) and defeating the deceptions (the rest of the nba teams) and saving their home planet cybertron (houston) from the planet devouring unicron (the suns). ultra magnus (jeff van gundy or calvin murphy) stepped up to the plate to lead the autobots (the rockets) to what ultimately became a victory over the decepticons (the rest of the nba).

    you see!!!! it's that simple, oldmanrock ;)

    well... i kinda changed the story towards the end. eventually revitalized optimus prime came back the lead the transformers and ultra magnus took a step back down, but what team has ever hired back a coach that it was fired from previously? :confused:
     
  10. wizkid83

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    LMAO, its nice to see a fellow transformer fan, but remember what happen at the last episode of transformer series? Who came back? Optimus prime lead the autobots again.
     
  11. leebigez

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    Think about this, the Warriors hasn't won this many games since, Rick Adelmans 1st yr. The Warriors won 36 games athe first yr he was hired after the Don Nelson-Chris webber debacle. They had a good young player in Spreewell, drafted the college player of the yr in Joe Smith and was one thier way to rebuilding after trading away their future star.The next yr they went backwards and only won 30 games , but Joe Smith was starting to look like a player upping his scoring and rebounding totals and Spreewell was still playing good. That would be his last season and the Warriors has suffered through some piss poor seasons since. Imagine where that team would be and the franchise as a whole if Adelman was still there.

    The best thing a coah can have going for him is a good gm, a understanding owner and a little luck. Since the last decision on personnell ends with Rudy, I blame him forsome of the poor decisions he's made. Rudy has been giving more than enough talent by management(remember all those double digit losses in 98 by the veteran team), and if he does come back will be the first coach to ever survive after 4 straight lotto picks.
     
  12. OmegaSupreme

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    i'm in discussions with hasbro to have a dvd version of the movie with an alternate ending so that optimus prime/rudy doesn't come back.
     
  13. Old Man Rock

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    You can't do that... you can't change the story to suit your theory if your theory is based on the story. So based on your story even the autobots realized Rudy/optimus Prime was their true leader and the only one who could lead them to the championship. They were smart enough to see the err of their ways of underestimate the heart of a champion and correct it before it was too late. Learn from history... do not repeat the autobots mistake and hope that you can correct it. Optimus might not be able to come back because he is locked in a 6 year contract leading his warriors in defeating you.
     
  14. OmegaSupreme

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    actually hotrod, the racecar transfomer found the matrix, the heart of optimus prime, and became the leader after ultra magnus was defeated. my mistake.

    so this means that as long as the new coach has the heart that rudy tomjanovich had in the past (some prefer the "heart of a champion"), then everything will be fine.

    there. end of story. end of thread.
     
  15. arno_ed

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    that is the ending of the movie, but in the serie, when everything is looking to go wrong with rodimus (that agression virus that spreads like hell) Optimus is brought back to life and he saves the world. and becomes the true leader he always was. Yes i was a transformer fan too
     
  16. brocktoon

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    If the rest of the NBA teams are the Decepticons and the Rockets are the Autobots, then that means either a former or current Rockets player would have to become the next coach (ala Hot Rod becoming Rodimus Prime). I don't want that player to be Larry Smith. I'd prefer someone like Mario Elie to fill the role of Rodimus Prime.

    Till All Are One.
     
  17. OmegaSupreme

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    damn. got me.

    so what are you saying? since rodimus caught the virus, that van gundy or calvin is going to catch sars or something enabling rudy to come back?
     
  18. ragingFire

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    Correct me if I am wrong, we have 2 prevailing thoughts on Rudy:
    1/2 thinks Rudy should go now.
    1/2 thinks Rudy should go after next season if we miss the playoff again.

    My question is what makes us qualified to judge Rudy next year and not this year?
    Will we all become smarter?
    Or will we have to admit that we are still stupid but we want Rudy to go regardless?!!
     
  19. arno_ed

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    i think the next coach will start a fight with the players and then rudy comes in and saves the day with his always friendly approach:D
     
  20. RocketGuy3

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    No. If the Rockets miss the playoffs again, people will feel a lot more justified in pointing fingers at him... Not a great question. That should be pretty obvious. There's been plenty of legitimate reasons to not believe he's the Rocket's main problem right now.
     

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