For all those who wish to criticize Rudy please first admit that you are stupid.

Rudy is a horrible coach with fatal character flaws. He is grossly stubborn. He is incapable of adjusting his game plan. His substitutions are hormonal, emotive, incomprehensible. Your "I wuvoo Ruddems" post has all the bluster of the smallest guy in the prison showers.

Prove your case. Explain how he wins games other quality coaches would lose. I don't think you can name one game he's won with coaching.

 

Sorry, but your fundamental premise is flawed.

Give up your voting right to assess the president of the USA, then you are entitled to talk about you and others aren't entitled to assess a basketball coach.

Basketball is 10 men playing with a ball and two baskets for christ sake.

 

Hey Old Man Rock, according to your logic:

We are also not knowledgeable enough to praise or criticize coaches
We are also not knowledgeable enough to praise or criticize players
we are also not knowledgeable enough to praise or criticize basketball analysts

Then the only thing we can do in this forum is to criticize or praise the posts such as yours?

 

hehehe!

under this circumstance, lumbergh from office space would say, "terrrrific post, mmmm'kay?"

 

count dough-ku, omega supreme, pasox2, panda, and dragon167 all forgot to say they were stupid first.

Simon didn't say. . .

 

I admitted that I was stupid at the end of my post.

BUT RUDY!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!! PLEASE RETURN TO THE ROCKETS SAFE AND HEALTHY! AND LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS!

 

funny how this also describes Pat Riley.

And you also did not first say that Rudy and Pat know more than you. The point is that we have absolutely zero sources on the BBS regarding what Rudy is doing with this stubborn team in practice. However, Mr Players Coach who never criticizes his players has once said (paraphrasing):

"It's frustrating. We can't do anything new in practice because we have to keep remedially drilling fundamentals over and over."

that's the whole point.

If the players fail in practice, a player's coach would never say that! And in the NBA, desciplining stars is proven to hurt the team as much as it helps...so, a "player's coach" just chooses to forego his own ego to allow patience.

This team in no way is the same as saying Barkley/Hakeem isos sucked. We have seen these Rockets run a Dallas-esque offense is fleeting moments enough to admit that we are stupid trying to figure out this teams multiple flaws versus the soup commander.

btw: as far as winning "one game" on his coaching abilities...first tell us what years you clearly are discounting?

 

dumb....just dumb

 

Pat Riley sucks too. Big whoop.

Sometimes, when I throw my beer at the tv, I think I do know more than Ruddy and Riley. They both behave like idiot blind pigs, shoving the same play that doesn't work down the lane again and again. Both are abysmal strategists, both are ridiculously stubborn, both get the deer in the headlights look. Pat's smarmy and Rudy's ruddy. Pat shouts and Rudy touts. Neither has any control of their team, both have made stupid GM blunders, both are embarrassingly emotional and way too attached to favorite players. They both suck.

You were saying?

 

I concur:
Fans<---- DUMB
Coach( staff) <------ DUMBER

 

First off, Rudy X's and O's are very weak, he's a great scout, leader, friend, heart of a champion etc etc etc. But strategy isn't his strong point. That being said, in the NBA, coaches that succeed doesn't always run the best plays. Attitude and reputation, as well as connection with the players are just as important.

There are significant amount of coaches that runs good plays that fails to achieve success because they are not on the same page with their players.

PJ Carlisimo
Del Harris
Don Nelson (pre Cuban)

Believe it or not, Phil Jackson isn't that great of x and o's guys either, the triangle offense for the most part looks a lot like iso doesn't it? The reason he's able to succeed where Del Harris fails and all the old Bull's coaches fails is to get all his players to be on the same page as him.

Even though I defended him, I would say Rudy would have to go should the Rox not make the playoffs this year. If he leaves however, the question is who we get to replace him? If we get some one that's a tough disciplinarian with the ill feeling of Rudy gone already among the players, we can be in a lot of trouble and disturbance with in the team.

 

Old Man...


All due respect, but you remind me of mine. He used to say something akin to this all the time. Allow me to digress for a sec, it's related (hyuk)...He was always a company man,my father, fairly conservative, and he had been a hell of a baseball player when he was younger. He was signed by the Orioles, and blew out his knee that very same summer returning a kickoff, tore his ACL and ICL, and the contract was nullified. After that he played in the world softball league, where he was rated among the best players in the world...I have been with him when he has been asked for his autograph. But he would often tell me of this competition they had, during the 7th inning stretch of every game...A person was selected at random from the crowd, and given the opportunity to face a WSL pitcher. Now these guys could get it up there well in excess of 100moh, and the challenge was if you could make contact with the ball, and it ended up in fair territory, you got a car. You could even bunt. No defense to catch the ball, just you an the pitcher and the 105 mph heat. Every game some guy would confidently stroll out there to take his cuts, and every game he would go 0 for 3. In the seasons my dad played, they only gave away one car, and that was to a woman who admitted she closed her eyes and swung and the ball hit the bat.

So when I hear guys who confidently assure me that they could hit at least .150 in the majors, or could last 1 round with Tyson, I know, from experience and my father's constant reminders, that we have little or no idea of the many, many layers seperating us from those who do this for a living. I was a good enough running back to have been offered shcolarships...I can objectively state that I was better than most people I have ever played against. And when people would tell me I could have gone pro, I would just have to laugh, because they really have no idea. It's a different world up there, whatever the sport. So I am not ignorant of the point you are trying to make about levels.

But the problem is, my Dad took this awareness of separation and applied it where it didn't belong, or to an extent that it didn't belong, and I think you are doing the same thing. Whenever i would criticize a trade our team's GM would make, my Dad would confidently tell me that " Well, he must have done it for a good reason, or do you think that you know more about baseball than he does?"

I always, even as a child, knew that this wasn't quite right, and it wasn't until i was older that I realized what he was doing. My father was making assumptions about fallibility, perspective, and knowledge that weren't accurate. He was assuming that someone with superior, even vastly superior knowledge in a given area was immune to weaknesses which coincide with an inferior's strength. I first saw this clearly when, at the age of 14, I detected that a certain pitcher was tipping off his slider. Now my dad by this point worked for the Blue Jays, and I had a pretty sound knowledge of the game, but I was hardly an expert. But I, a punk kid with too much time to spend watching baseball had noticed something that the player in question was not aware of. A week or so later Tony Kubek, on the air, stated ( To my wonder at the time) that this player had been hit hard lately because he had been tipping off his pitches.

You see my point? People of infinately superior knowledge can be subject to weaknesses that they themselves are not aware of, but an 'outsider' paying attention might see. There is the forest for the trees argument, and the fact that coaches, like anyone else, develop tendancies of which, after time, they have little control and often even less awareness. I may not know as much about football as anyone in the Minnesota Vikings organization, but I can say, without much reservation, that failing to get your 1st round draft pick's name to the podium in time two years running is both worthy of my criticism, and something signifying alproblem in the organization.

Same goes with Rudy...you don't have to know as much about the game as he does to see that there are problems. I personally think his strengths outweigh his weaknesses, but that is not relevent to this discussion.

 

I was just starting. But first notice I always say I don't know more than Rudy and Pat Riley.

So now describe Dunleavy at Portand, and Larry Brown at San Antonio, and Adelman at GS, and Brian Jordan at NJ who was replaced at Sacremento by Adelman. Then please 'splain to us the failure of the NCAA god, Rick Pitino.

In an environment when you can't recruit exactly what you want, and you have stubborn players who aren't that smart or versatile, do you act like Pitino and Pat and blame the team...or do you act with class like Rudy...and take the punishment for the players who we have to keep "teaching fundamentals over and over" to.

Please explain Dunleavy, Adelman, Brian Jordan, Brown and Pitino, in the same context that you rip Rudy and Riley.

 

But it's Rudy who drafted, traded or signed those stubborn, unsmart or unversatile players. How could you say that he can't recruit what he wants?

Challenge: Name me a NBA bench unit with more combined salaries than the Rockets'.

Whose fault is that?

 

MacBeth,

I have one question for you. I've heard Jim Boylen yell, "pick for the picker" during games.

What do you think that means? The coaches have lost control, or the players can't pick for the picker in team wide unison. Have you ever noticed Eddie bump into teammates? How about Mobley dribble through and passively pass then look to position up with absolutely no purpose. "Oh, I'll go stand here."

Pick for the picker, dammit!

So, do you yell that at the coach who is screaming it, or do you join the coach and yell that at the player.

 

Newgirl, you failed to say you are more stupid than the coaches.

Secondly, I was making a comparison to college legends. Having essentially one pick per year, is nothing like have 5 recruites per year. Further, the whole...best available versus trading down thing doesn't have any correlation to NCAA team building.

You cannot build a team quickly through an NBA drafts, otherwise the Bulls, GS, Memphis and Clippers would rock right now...no.

they don't rock.

But you could fire their coaches to make you feel better. Like they do each year.

 

Old Man,

First, let me just say that I do not believe that Rudy sucks. I do not believe it is yet time to get rid of him. But in the end, there's only one thing you can say -- the performance of the team is ultimately Rudy's responsibility.

Is the team untalented? It's the coaches' job to maximize the effectiveness of the team's talent.
Is the team immature? It's the coaches' job to make the team succeed anyway.
Is the team inconsistent? It's the coaches' job to set up a system that MAKES the team consistent.
Is a player being stupid? It's the coaches' job to BENCH a player when he's being stupid.

Is the team losing and generally not meeting its goals? SIMPLY PUT: IT IS THE COACHES' JOB TO MAKE SURE THE TEAM WINS AND MEETS ITS GOALS. WHEN IT IS NOT, IT IS THE COACHES' JOB TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION TO ENSURE THAT IT DOES.

The team is not performing. It is the coaches' job to make the team perform. What do you suggest should be done?

Personally, I'd be satisfied with Rudy admitting that there is problem and his saying that they are looking at ways to take corrective action. I personally think the primary problem is denial by the coaching staff. This team has problems, and they need to be addressed.

Maybe maturity will solve those problems, but there are certainly other ways of solving them too. Perhaps instead of waiting for maturity to magically occur, we should take corrective action to _instill_ maturity.

 

I don't know much about basketball compared to Rudy, but...

...actually, there is no but; I'm just hopping on the Qualify Criticism bandwagon. I think there's a small chance it could help us speak more from our heads than our emotions, which makes discussion more reasonable and enjoyable in my opinion.

Vae, I choose to believe that Rudy and the staff are aware of many of the team's problems, but choose not to discuss it too much with the media. I agree it's more satisfying as a fan to have the coaches come clean, but it's probably better for the team to keep things in-house. Whether the coaches can or should be doing things differently is the ultimate question.

It'll be interesting to see what the team looks like in the fall. I'd actually rather not trade away any of our starters unless there's a chance of getting players that I personally feel confident can help this time like Brand or Brent Barry.

 

OK, I am stupid basketball IQ wise and think Rudy is a great coach this season.

But I am wondering what other excuses will come up next season in case Rockets go to the lottery again and Rudy is coaching despite the cancer.

 

Old Man,

The (LACK OF) results this year speaks volumes about RT.

Simply stated: WHOLE < SUM OF THE PARTS.

And you are pretty narrow minded to suggest that anyone who disagrees with your premise is stupid.

Nuff sed,

Dallas Rocket