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[Football] World Cup 2010 Qualifiers 10/10 and 10/14

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by SwoLy-D, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. plcmts17

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    2007 Gold Cup winner = Confederations Cup berth.
    2009 Gold Cup winner = badly needed win for Mexico and their morale.

    Oh and congrats for winning the 1999 Confederations Cup. Where was it held once again?? It must have been real tough beating the USA in the semifinals,in the Azteca, in the summer and in extra time on a golden goal. You guys were such a powerhouse.
     
  2. halfbreed

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    I don't begrudge Mexico the Confederations Cup they won. I love when CONCACAF does well on the international stage. We're the most underrated federation on the planet. They did win it at home but it's not as if we've won it, yet, so you can't really blame them for pointing that out.

    Look, if every team sent its best team to the 2009 Gold Cup and Mexico won, then I have no problem touting that championship. It's just how I wondered why US fans could be super proud of the 2005 Gold Cup that really meant nothing.
     
  3. SwoLy-D

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    The "schtick" that you say I have is responding to silly comments like the one your boy posted about being "CONCACAF Champions" when you know it's not true. There's no "but this one doesn't mean anything" asterisk on the cup. Show it to me.

    You get all happy and boast about how you're the leader in the group, when that only gets you IN, but no real recognition in the large stage. So you went to the quarterfinals in 2006. Whoop-dee-doo, you barely made it in with a win against Portugal. What is that going to get you in 2010? Until you do MORE than a three-and-out like you have in 90, 98, 2006, FIFA will begin to recognize your "supremacy" in the CONCACAF... so let's see you get a top seat... we'll see if you use it well if you DO get seeded... you will now begin your excuse-laiden wagon about how "but we were missing two key players" and cry how you get paired up with better teams than we do. Who gives a sh&t?

    You seem to just want to pick and choose which one is the meaningful one. Like if you can go tell all those players in the US team that it meant NOTHING to their faces... after that goose egg. You cannot. Not meaningful?

    * 5-0 equals the largest margin of win between USA and MEXICO
    * We beat you at home
    * We took the Gold Cup back.
    Not meaningful? Spare me, sir.
    No, it's not fine. It's like taking your sister in your house and doing her in front of you. But then you say "I don't care about my sister, she's not the good one." :rolleyes:
    No one gets a choice on "WHAT TROPHY YOU RATHER WIN", and "ifs" don't exist. Stop trying to continue with what the USA does best: EXCUSES.

    I hope they do give you the seeding you so much cry for, so you can show the world what a "leader" you are of CONCACAF. I really do hope you do well, but you're NOT THE CHAMPIONS of CONCACAF. Stop your lies.

    And plcmts17, STFU about where it was held. We play you ANYWHERE ANY TIME without excuses and don't cry about "boo-hoo, it was held in [somewhere else]!" "Boo-hoo, it was hot!." So we'll continue to get paid more in the U.S. to see if you continue to beat us like you did before the 5-0. If you are going to complain later, then just don't play and stay your happy ass home. STFU. :mad:
     
  4. DaDakota

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    LOL at Swoly taking pride in beating our "B" team 5-0....come on, man....at least you won 2-1 at home against the "A" team.

    Spouting about how important the GOLD cup is, this year, is disengenious, I refuse to believe you really feel that way.....

    Congrats to the USA for winning the group, and for Mexico and Hondurus as well....and GO Costa Rica, let's get 4 of us in there.....

    The World Cup is only a few months away.....oh man....I can't wait.

    DD
     
  5. halfbreed

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    SwoLy, if your boys would have taken care of business yesterday, you would have been on here today bragging about finishing atop the group. In most leagues a champion is determined in the same way as we decide who goes to the World Cup. So while technically we are not champions of CONCACAF it's not a completely weird sentiment, either.

    You get so bent out of shape anytime someone says something good about the United States if they don't also say something as complimentary of Mexico. Just be happy that your team is doing so well now. I remember about half a year ago when not qualifying was a very real possibility for your squad. In the end, both the US and Mexico proved why they are the best in the region: consistency.
     
  6. leroy

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    Reading comprehension FAIL, again.

    I said...

    And, no, I never care when mexico does anything.

    Man, do I enjoy a good Swoly meltdown in the morning. :D :) ;) :cool:
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    lol bragging about a junior varsity game is comedy gold

    sounds like somebody has sour grapes that the US finished on top
     
  8. halfbreed

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    Let us remember what last night meant to a small country in Central America:

    Announcers of the Honduras-El Salvador game learning of the US scoreline:

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    Final minutes of the game on Honduran TV (including a call of the goal at around 6:50):

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  9. SwoLy-D

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    ^ Of course you don't care when anyone else does ANYTHING. I am soOOoOooOoo worried... :rolleyes:

    It sounds just like a blind USA Soccer fan, who can't accept failure in so many levels... this is for you, bigtexx, with your so-called "USA is respected internationally"... :D
    You were only able to score 3 wins and draw 3 out of all those 17 games? How come Mexico has won 8 and drawn 8 out of 21 and hasn't had a 3-and-out since being banned in 1990?

    Crying about seeding will happen again.

    Brace yourselves, gentlemen. Get ready for another quick exit. This is about the WORLD CUP Qualification, not your "meaningless" loss against Brazil. Where does it say it's the CONCACAF Championship? Again, get ready to fall on your face again in the world stage.

    There's no sour grapes about being second in a group where we started off badly and came back to reclaim 2nd spot. Nothing sour about that. First place in this region gets you nothing.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Seriously, you are going back 19 years....who cares? You were what? 5 years old then, if anything.

    LOL - all that matters is your sig....I will own that THIS next year for 30 glorious days.

    DD
     
  11. SwoLy-D

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    Ok, then, let's NOT go back 19 years. Who beat the other team at their home stadium last? Who has the last GOLD CUP? Who went farthest in the last World Cup? :confused:
     
  12. WhoMikeJames

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    Not far enough, muahahaha.

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  13. ipaman

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    Your statement here proves you know nothing about mexican soccer.

    This past goldcup WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT GOLDCUP in the last 10 years for Mexico. But you would have to follow the team and the mexican media to know that. I do and I know that result was LARGE in so many ways.

    If it wasn't important for the US, I don't care that's not my team. Don't project your goals onto my teams goals. Especially when you don't know my teams goals based on their trials and tribulations.
     
  14. SwoLy-D

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    Farther than the USA. LOL! Nice one, sir, but no one is talking about Argentina, here... you barely made it into this one, so I wouldn't brag. :D Good luck with your coach, by the way!
     
  15. leroy

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    That's the point. It was important FOR MEXICO. The piss-poor play of the mexican team over the year previous to the Cup made it an important tournament for their morale. Importance for anything else was non-existent. If it meant anything...like entry into the Confederations Cup...the US would have sent more than their B team (and it could be argued that it was actually more of a C team). You won the tournament. Congratulations. Had the US won the game, we would have moved on by now as the only thing that currently matters is getting to South Africa.
     
  16. SwoLy-D

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    ^ So... are you CONCACAF Champions now, or are you? :confused:
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Wait, so it was important to Mexico, why exactly?

    Why would beating our "B" team feel like any real accomplisment?

    Because that right there is just friggen sad....and shows how far the Tri Colores have fallen.

    DD
     
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  18. leroy

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    Damn straight

     
  19. ipaman

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    dada you know a soccer game involves 2 teams right, sometimes with 2 different agendas? it has nothing to do with your team. mexico had a coaching change, a lost generation (their 2 stars are 36 years old and 21 years old), qualification struggles, players vs. media, coach vs. media, it was a mess.

    that gold cup tournament, especially the semi-final and final, brought a harmony to femexfut that we haven't seen in years. we got some much from the gold cup run there is too many to list them all. but 2 points, we got a coach who found his base and we went undefeated after the gold cup in wcq'ing. so how important was it for mexico again? and what do those 2 points have to do with the US aside from being one of the victims in wcq'ing?

    also this whole A/B/C alphabet soup of teams is ridiculous. since la volpe and the exit of borgetti, blanco (returned), and other aging stars mexico really hasn't had ABC teams so nice and neatly broken down. Truth is, there was so much inconsistancy from the top of femexfut down the players that we didn't know who was an ABC player. If you don't know where to slot your players how can you build a A or B team? You can't! Also every coach has a system and favorite players to run there system. if you have 5 coaches in 2 years you can't have a base.

    If your team can great. Due to your coaching consistency and player classification, you can slot players easily. We couldn't but are getting closer.
     
  20. leroy

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    Thank you for making our point for us. It was important to mexico. Not so much to the USMNT since many of the players that were run out there might never see another cap in their careers.
     

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