It shouldn't have come down to that play, but definitely the refs caused the outcome of this game...Fired, well, everyone makes mistakes, but unfortunatley, this one is more costly than others...
Which game did you watch? Oregon scored 21 4th quarter points and had over 500 yards in total offense (100 more than Oklahoma). Yes, there was a bad call in the last minute, but bad calls happen to every team every year. If OU deserved to win, they wouldn't give up an 87 yard TD drive, then a 65 yard TD drive, then a 53 yard drive. If OU deserved to win, they would have moved the ball in the last 30 seconds instead of taking their chances with a 44 yard field goal. And they would have won if they made the field goal. So if there's a bad call get over it. It was just a change of possion call. No points were put up or removed because of the one call. Oregon wanted the game more. OU gave the game away. yes I know the game would have been over if the refs made the right call, but OU has themselves to blame.
It happens. Refs officiating teams not from their conference has always been a problem - last year, the Sun Belt refs cost Michigan timeouts in the Alamo Bowl and Conference USA admitted afterwards they messed up a call late in the Outback Bowl that cost Iowa the chance to comeback against Florida. There's nothing OU can do but take the loss and move on.
as for the interference call, it was irrelevant b/c it's not what the refs were reviewing. you can't review a penalty. they were reviewing if the ball was tipped, which it obviously was. yet, the ref blantantly said it was not! even if it wasn't, i didn't see pass interference on the play either. the guy bumped the WR within 5 yards and released IIRC.
The funny thing about the whole onsides kick thing was that an Oklahoma player actually recovered the ball at the far right hand side of the picture. The ball wasn't even close to the pile where everyone was jumping on.
But isn't that the whole purpose of instant replay, to review plays and make the correct calls? No matter how badly you think OU played, if the right call had been made in the end, they would have won. I don't know how you can think the refs aren't at fault for the outcome.
so OU didn't make the plays they needed to make...oh like, recover an onside kick? or play great defense like tip a pass? i saw four huge mistakes by the refs on that last possession. 1) giving the ball to Oregon before the play was dead and the ball was recovered, 2) giving the ball to Oregon even after watching the replay which obviously showed an Oregan player touched the ball before 10 yards, 3) i thought it was a phantom interference call, and 4) claiming the pass was never tipped when it obviously was. i don't care how great your defense plays, it's bound to break down trying to overcome all that.
OK, first the tipped pass. OU could not stop Oregon on their last two drives. THe Oregon QB was 6 for 6 and except for that play, there were never defenders within 5 yards of the Oregon receivers. Move the ball back 14 yards that Oregon got on the penalty, and I think Oregon still scores easily. OU was on it's heels, and the score was inevitable. The onside kick was a bad call. I get it. The point is, you don't quit after the refs make a bad call. OU's offense was sputtering the int 4th quarter. Oregon was rolling in the 4th with all of the momentum. Yes, OU wins if the call was made correctly. But OU had many chances to win after the call was made incorrectly. There was a bad call, but OU lost the game, the officials didn't lose it for them. The officials didn't ask the scorer to please place 7 more points in Oregon's point column. The officials didn't ask OU to run into the middle of the line with 30 seconds left, forcing a longer field goal than they might have been comfortable with. The officials didn't order the OU players not to block the rushers up the middle to allow a blocked field goal. I hope you see my point. Bad call= yes. Officials beat OU=no.
You've just proven what this entire thread is about. The refs were so incompetent throughout the game that on that play not only did they not see the interference in the 10 yard zone, or the fact that the OU player ended up with the ball before their premature whistle- they had a REPLAY to sort it all out. Guess what... they still got it terribly wrong.
A terrible missed call by the refs, but threatening him and his family is just uncalled for. Especially coming from the University with the most violations in NCAA history (by far too).
Article in the Oregonian today says there was a problem getting the video feed to the replay booth and the official only had one angle on the replay, and it wasn't a good angle either. Says the replay official's instinct told him the call was wrong on the field as it happened, but they didn't get him the right video to see enough to overturn the call. He didn't see all the angles that we did watching TV.
the ncaa needs to come out and explain what went wrong. 1 week suspension does not explain how they could screw up that bad.
That was a horrible game, but it couldn't happen to a better team. After decades of cheating the NCAA, OU gets cheated by the NCAA. I think I hear a little fiddle playing.
Well isn't that convenient, I'm sure if it was Oregon challenging the call there would've been plenty of angles for him to watch. It's pretty screwed up when people watching at home have a better look at it than the replay official making the call in the game.
How long should they get suspended for? The officials and the Pac-10 issued apologies to OU and the officials admitted they made a mistake. Even if they get suspended for longer, it still isn't going to explain how they could have screwed up that bad.
am i missing something but from the what television shows, the ref isn't even looking at the replays. it's only the people in the booth.
Yeah, there is a replay official in the booth who actually views the plays and makes the calls. He is the one who has taken all the heat for the call.
Very interesting letter written by the president of OU to the commissioner of the Big 12. This is a pretty unbelievable letter coming from OU. I know every school has their problems, but as I posted earlier, OU has the most NCAA violations by far of any University. The president should recognize that by asking for this game to be erased from the books, he should also know that the NCAA should erase their entire 05-06 season (including the bowl victory over UO) because their starting QB should have been ineligible. He also fails to realize how many violations (both basketball and football) OU has gotten off with just a slap on the wrist (most recent being the recruiting violations by Samson).
