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[Football] FIFA World Cup 2010 South Africa

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by SwoLy-D, May 5, 2010.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    That would be pretty simple. Brazil has the best record, followed by Italy and then Germany.
     
  2. plcmts17

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    Brasil has won the WC on every continent the tournament has been played.
    1958 - Europe (Sweden)
    1962 - South America (Chile)
    1970/1994 - North America (Mexico, United States)
    2002 - Asia (Korea/Japan)

    That's pretty !@#$ing impressive and a feat NO other country can even come close to matching.
     
  3. Kam

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    USA would whoop that ass any ol time.
     
  4. Obito

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    So Swoly ready to get whooped by the Azzurri tomorrow?

    :)
     
  5. Obito

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    Meant Thursday *

    Still have a little hangover, excuse my inconvenience. :)
     
  6. rawool

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    Looks like Jonathan Dos Santos didn't make the final roster . His father is already talking about how he isn't going to play for Mexico anymore.

     
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    Well... SURE. Who cares if they're the champs? The bigger they are, the harder that's what SHE said. :p

    I have no problem. We've improved vastly in the last few games, and I am hoping Bautista doesn't see the field. I don't agree fully with leaving Dos Santos off the team. I thought it would be Bautista, since he hasn't contributed much... I even thought he might have scored last Sunday.

    Now I'm just hoping that whoever is in that field on Friday afternoon of the 11th (South Africa time) does VERY WELL and BETTER than the South Africans can. :eek:

    What a freakin' crybaby. Suck it up. So Aguirre makes a mistake and doesn't pick his boy. Boo-hoo. Go away. Like he isn't young enough to make the team in 2014? What a crybaby. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. DaDakota

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    In your opinion should he be on the team?

    DD
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Landon Donovan...good for the US team, but he was definitely not good enough for Bayern Munich, I have seen him play (and met him in person) several times.
     
  12. Rocketeer

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    Jonathan Dos Santos would of gotten very little PT if any at all. What bothers me is that Adolfo Bautista made the team. He has nothing to offer the team with the current mix of players and he had a mediocre outing this year at best. I don't like this guy at all; he's way too passive on the pitch. I would of included Jonathan just because he DOES have a future on the team, no doubt about it. He has a POTENT middle distance shot, and you can see the potential in his game. He needs more experience and a WC could of done so much to boost his morale. Adolfo will rot on the bench too. So in this case if I were to choose between the two , I pick the younger player (just turned 20).
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Uh, he really did not fit in over there, but was magnificent for Everton this year, he is a very very good player, and is top football caliber.

    Sometimes it takes the right situation for talented players to reach their top abilities.

    DD
     
  14. david_rocket

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    I think he is too young, and doesnt have experience, and probably he wouldnt got any playing time this year will be great for the next world cup.
    but there are other players that are worse and doesnt deserve going to the world cup like bautista and torres nilo.

    the father of dos santos is stupid, you can be sad and stuff that one fo your kids is sent home, but you cant say all the things he says, Jonathan only has played 4 or 5 games with the mexico national team, he has a good road ahead
    I hope this doesnt affect Giovanni in the tournament, and I expect Jonathan plays for Mexico in next competitions.

    And swoly, all Mexico hopes that Bautista doesnt see the field.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Sometimes you need to bring along the next generation of players so that they are ready for the next cup....

    Maybe they should have had him on the team.

    DD
     
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    DD, I think both david_rocket and Rocketeer said what I would have said. :cool:

    I even forgot he was even in the preparatory games up in Europe with the team. That goes to show you how deeply Aguirre had confided in younger players who haven't shown enough. I believe that because of the skill level and experience of Hernandez and Vela, Aguirre chooses them to stay on the team, but he doesn't choose Jonathan. Also, the amount of midfielders already on the team (Torrado, Juarez, Barrera, Guardado, Giovanni, and Blanco used mostly as midfielder) counts badly against Jonathan.

    In my opinion, I think that Jonathan deserves to be in the team instead of either Bautista, Torres Nilo, or Oscar Pérez. I could have chosen from any of those, but the defense needs to be set and solid. I agree about Bautista not needing to be out there, but it only takes one good strike for him to score... he just needs to find the ball and have a bit more desire to help Mexico win in South Africa. I don't think he will, but that doesn't mean he won't.

    Also, the way Jonathan's father is acting is a bit weird. It's like he was promised something or he did some favors for Aguirre or maybe he knows Bautista has bad photos of Aguirre or something... :eek:

    And about Donovan, sir, you state "Sometimes it takes the right situation for talented players to reach their top abilities"... when in reality, is he's as good as many people tout him to be, he should excel and reach his top ability IN ANY team. I disagree with the "right situation" crap. Dream was top ability before the championship years and was consistent until after the '98 season.
     
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    Based on talent alone I agree 100%. Unfortunately that won't happen because of the covering surrounding th English national team. I've been living in London for 9 months now and the media here amazes me. Every game/event/newsworthy happening is covered with more scrutiny than the BP well catastrophe. For a country who seems to think it is their birthright to win the WC every 4 years, they panic at the slightest hint of adversity and this seems to filter down to the team. Honestly, I think it goes a long way in explaining why they haven't held their nerve (historically) during PK shootouts in major tournaments.
     
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    I'm rooting for USA & Mexico.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Nope that is stupid.

    Sometimes players do not get the opportunity or a particular style does not fit their own.

    Especially creative players like Donovan, they are a bit like Steve Nash, who need others to move to open spots, while they are still good players no matter where they play, creative players like Nash and Donovan shine even more when they play with others who are as creative or talented.

    Passers need people that can take advantage of their passes.

    For years, Donovan has been putting the ball into open spaces only to have McBride or someone else not be on the run, they just did not see it.....

    Donovan has a special ability to see the pitch.....and when he gets to play with others who also see the field, he excels.

    In Germany, they did not play his style, and he was fairly young, as a result he did not fit in, nor get the opportunity to play, at Everton this year, he was magnificent....because they played a style that suited him.

    I know you understand this, or at least should.

    DD
     
  20. dcalvo

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    These are completely different sports/players so this isn't really a fair comparison. I wasn't really surprised when Landon failed in Germany, the Bundesliga presents a much different style of play than the EPL. Someone of Donovan's stature/skills was always going to struggle. It's the same reason talented South American players such as Juan Sebastion Veron and Diego Forlan couldn't cut it with Man U but have had successful careers outside of England.
     

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