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[Football] #1 UT vs. #6 TTU

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by flipmode, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. Lonestar28

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    Didn't see your response.
     
  2. tinman

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    you are right about the BCS etc, but as far as passion, loyalty, and excitement, you can't beat college football. the players aren't about holding out on training camp or 'making it rain'. Its always been about team and community.
     
  3. benchmoochie

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    UT played a half assed game against OSU last week in Austin. (I was at the game) This time they did the same against a better opponent, and it cost them.
     
  4. francis 4 prez

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    so much has happened since (and who can say what happens after if things are different) but no one even remembers that horrible safety now. F'ing-A! how do you make that call? we're the biggest POS short yardage team in history and backed up on our own goalline we had it off deep in the endzone? WTF?! how about we let our 80% (usually) QB get in the shotgun back from the rush and throw a quick pass? instead we run a play that if it doesn't work is a sure-fire safety. just brilliant. we had so many negative yardage plays against this typically ****ty tech D, and did it with a really good offense. no one came ready to play, no one came ready to coach (thanks for rushing 4 all last drive muschamp), and no one made a play when they needed to (shipley, gideon, thomas, brown (nice tackle on crabtree there), the defense on tons of tackles).

    and what the hell was thomas doing on that last play? was all spatial relationship calculation capacity removed from his brain? instead of running at michael crabtree and curtis brown at about the 3, he decided to randomly run to the 10 yard line to get a better view of brown's missed tackle to end the game. where the hell was he running to?


    and now, texas, which has had a hell of a season, beaten 3 top 11 teams, beaten oklahoma when they were #1, and only has 1 loss, might not only not get to the national title game, we probably won't go to the big 12 title game, and we might not even make a BCS game b/c apparently no one at the top of the big 12 can lose a game this year. that would suck.
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    bill buckner actually made contact with the ball. blake gideon acted like he was paralyzed from the waste up on that play. what a massive choke job. all your teammates do all that work all season and offseason, get through this huge run of games, and you take it upon yourself to screw it all up with one of the biggest chokes of all time, a national championship waster.
     
  6. Desert Scar

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    Hey, most of the Horn fans are crediting Tech and handling it well. I will as well. Tech outplayed us. Their coaches and players clearly were more focused and gave more effort from the snap--yet we nearly stole the game despite being the 2nd best team on the field tonight. You win some, you lose some, have fun Tech fans--that was a great ball game and signature win, ever (to this point in TT/West Texas CF History).

    I do feel bad to lose the way we did, Gideon drop. plus Brown and that other safety who could have made a play on Crabtree and just watched (though Tech probably makes a field goal if they knock Crabtree OB). But the larger truth is from the 3rd quarter of OSU game to nearly the end of the 3rd quarter Texas has been outplayed by the other guys--we have nobody to blame but ourselves, we didn't look good for about a 4-5 quarter stretch.

    And sure I often get irritated with the coaching staff. I find us way too predictable on both sides of the ball--and of course clock management was bad once inside the Tech 20. But on the other hand, we had 2 timeouts, so had we failed we had a chance to get the ball back. In the end the offense did what it needed to do, finally got a lead. The defense and special teams didn't seal the game, period.


    Texas has Mizzou (and the Ark win took on a little more value today), but OU has TCU and Cincy--both (soon) ranked nonconference foes. If it is a 3 way 1-loss scenario with Tech, I doubt Texas takes the South unless TCU (Utah and AF are possible losses) and/or Cincy (lot of foes) take more losses.

    The best case scenario is OSU beats Tech. Than as long as Texas takes care of business Texas is a good shape. Because then if OU beats Tech at home or OSU beats OU at home Texas should win tiebreakers. OSU is Texas best friend the next few weeks.
     
  7. NIKEstrad

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    We had a serious case of dropsies all game. Shipley dropped the touchdown, Collins had one hit him in the numbers that could've extended a drive, Earl Thomas had one hit him in the chest that could've been returned big. Still Gideon's deer in the headlights on a pop up is unbelievable.

    On the bright side, Malcolm Williams had a breakout performance in place of Quan (which I think shell shocked the offense for the whole first half), and Aaron Williams is looking like a Thorpe winner in the making.

    This still hurts though. Congrats to Tech -- they played a good game, great in the first half.
     
  8. francis 4 prez

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    and if the safety, the dropped TD, and the dropped INT weren't bad enough, the 2 plays we did make on special teams didn't even go well for us. we block a punt but if just ends up going forward and rolling inside the 20 anyway. and on our blocked FG, we catch it in mid-air and still get tackled right away and even get a PF tacked on. granted we scored the 91 yd TD right after, but what a horrible night it was. if tech wasn't making amazing plays, we were committing penalties on good plays, we were choking away opportunities, even our good plays were blowing up in our face.
     
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  9. tinman

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    I also blame Greg Davis for the horrendously obvious play calling in the first half.
    Leach totally destroyed Greg Davis in the play calling.
     
  10. Hoee Ass

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    Overall, it was a great game, UT had many chances to put Tech away and could've made some huge plays. However, we also had some opportunities to make some big plays (drops and penalties).

    I am going to enjoy the win at home, but I'm not going to lie, playing at Norman will be tough, those OU guys are probably hungry for revenge..
     
  11. DaDakota

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    No doubt about that....could have really used Finley and Charles in this game...too bad they went to the NFL early to ride the pine.

    :D

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  12. francis 4 prez

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    there was no reason to play for the "if they stop us, we can get it back" scenario. for one thing, they weren't going to stop us. secondly, we would've needed a 3 and out if they got the ball back. and we weren't going to get one of those. no way, no how. the only thing to do was to score with as little time left as possible, and we acted like we were trying to score with as much time as possible. with those 2 timeouts, we could wasted all sorts of time and not been in trouble.


    granted, i shouldn't be too hard on mack brown, he's a football coach. and as i have lamented many a time, i'm not sure any group of people on this planet are stupider than football coaches. the number of stupid things they do in crucial situations that go against all simple reasoning is amazing. and time management is where they shine the brightest. it's almost shocking when a football coach actually does appear to understand how to use the clock. whether they're draining all 40 off the clock down 2 scores (the gary kubiak special) with 5 minutes to go or using 10 seconds off the clock inside the 10 with 2 minutes to and needing to run clock, or calling timeouts after first downs (in cfb) instead of on plays where 40 seconds will run off, or not calling timeout as precious seconds run off on their final drive, they rarely disappoint. so i guess mack was just being a moron b/c he's a football coach.
     
  13. Desert Scar

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    National championship chance.

    I am a Horn fan, but I don't think we were/are the best team. The running game is inconsistent as is the defense. McCoy has covered for a lot of areas that don't look like most NC teams. I don't think we are better than Florida or OU (despite beating them I would not favor us in a rematch), nor are we played defense like Bama or USC (Penn State, who knows because of their cake schedule).

    So we had a chance because we played a great second half against OU and held on against OSU. We had breaks go our way up until 8 seconds tonight--the odds 3 50/50 games all break your way isn't good. That's football, and this team is not like the 2005-2006 team that is just about steamrolled everyone (sans the Rose Bowl against a team that had won 30 strait). This was a very good Texas team that was in great position to compete for a NC primarily because of a few clutch players (most notably McCoy), this isn't a great, dominant, college football team. It is pretty obvious their are 3 other teams in its own division more or less the same caliber/ballpark.
     
  14. yaoluv

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    I cant be too mad at the clock management.

    When you have momentum like that and you are rolling for really the 1st time in the game, you can't slow down and let them regroup, you have to stick it to them.
     
  15. AGBee

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    Thank you thank you thank you. It's annoying how some fans were already celebrating a championship after beating OU. Expectations were low to start the season, but got out of control way too fast.
     
  16. halfbreed

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    I agree but if we get past Tech the road to the BCS Championship Game is very doable.

    :( :( :(

    I feel bad for Gideon. Poor kid is 18 years old and he's got to feel sick to his stomach. I feel like throwing up and I'm a 23 year old grad student who just watched the game while eating chips and queso.
     
  17. LonghornFan

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    Great post, and I agree with everything you posted. I enjoyed the 1st place ranking, but I knew we were WAY overrated. I thought next year would be the year, but I enjoyed the short ride.
     
  18. Desert Scar

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    BTW Leech has grown on me and I like Harrell. I want them to lose a couple of games of course this year, but I can appreciate them. Those two are whole heck of a lot less boring than most coaches and players, and they get the most of what they got. Those are admirable qualities.

    This loss isn't sticking in my crawl like some of the previous OU loses a few years back, or like had we lost to USC in the NC (or the last two Aggie games where we never shake out of the panzy mode and just get out hearted and out toughed). We hung tough on not our best day, even gutted out a lead and almost stole the game. Nonetheless this may be thousands/hundreds of thousands fans//players game of their life (Tech fans). They have much to be proud of, rejoice.

    Us Texas fans will have to wait for another day.
     
  19. flipmode

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    clock management,
    gideon's brain fart,
    shipley's early drop,
    brown/thomas' numbness vs crabtree

    any one of these guys stops the brain fart, we win. simple. IMO, the most controllable was the clock. 1st down at the 10, clock running, with 2 timeouts, and you snap with :30 left on the play clock?!??!!?!? :mad:
     
  20. surrender

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    EVERYBODY CRANK DAT CRABTREE

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