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Folks, this is real: Obama targets Republicans for Chrysler dealer closings

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, May 28, 2009.

  1. rudan

    rudan Member

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    I agree that the GOP dealership thing could be just a coincidence, but when you add the fact that minority owners are being left alone for the most part makes this story have legs. If this is true, this is the most dangerious and racist government ever!
     
  2. Refman

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    I believe that the crown of most dangerous and racist government ever is safe with Germany from 1938-1945. Closing car dealerships isn't anything close to operating concentration camps and murdering 6,000,000 people of Jewish faith.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    refman already pointed to Nazi Germany, there were numerous other govts. including the previous administration where an open racist was appointed head of the civil rights division of the Justice department which were definitely more racist.

    Your saying some great things on the board, it's just too bad there is no validity to any of them.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    How many times can you flat out lie in your thread title before it becomes a punishable offense?

    The majority of us play by the rules...
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Yep and already mentioned in the article:

    [rquoter]UPDATE: Auto Prophet says wait just a minute

    The Auto Prophet - an anonymous engineer working for one of the Detroit automakers - is skeptical of the suggestion that political considerations are playing a role in White House car czar decisions on which Chrysler dealers are to be shuttered.

    A more likely explanation is simply the fact that more Chrysler dealers in general are likely to be Republican contributors, which would mean more of the closed dealers would be seen to be GOP supporters than Democrat supporters: "My hypothesis is that Chrysler dealers, being small businessmen, are more likely to donate to Republicans than Democrats, for predictable reasons. Like any small businessmen, car dealers want lower taxes, a lower minimum wage, fewer regulations, etc."

    I have been reading The Auto Prophet for years and consider him to be among the most credible of bloggers on automotive issues. On this issue, I agree with him to the extent that a definitive, statistical analysis-driven conclusion is not possible until all contributions by all Chrysler dealers is completed.
    [/rquoter]
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    Do you have any evidence to support that claim?
     
  7. rudan

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    Just found out more info. Turned out to be not true, but its still a bit of a disproportion number compared to the overall number.......

    Of the 789 Chrysler dealers who were notified that their contracts will not be renewed, 38 are minority owned. There were about 170 minority dealers in Chrysler's 3,181 total dealers. So out of 170 or so minority owned dealerships, only 38 of them will be let go. Its still a smaller percentage compared to the 789 total. Not too bad, but still its worth taking note of.

    And when I said this would be the most racist government if this was true, I meant to say US government. Although the Wilson administration was pretty racist(social enginering). All Obama has done so far is pick a racist woman for the sepreme court and maybe saved some minority dealerships, so he has a way to go to beat Wilson :D
     
  8. Major

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    Shocking!
     
  9. Batman Jones

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    This is great news for Trader George!
     
  10. wizkid83

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    So by those numbers, there are 3011 non minority owned dealers, of which 751 are closing ~ 25%. Of the 170 minority owned dealers, 38 are closing or about 22%, draw a 95% CI interval and you can see that number of minority dealers are well within the statistical variance (16% to 29%) , which debunks the fact that there's any overtly biased racism in the administration.
     
  11. rimrocker

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    What do you mean by social engineering?
     
  12. Dairy Ashford

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    I think Andrew Johnson and Rutherford B. Hayes might be in the running on that one.
     
  13. finalsbound

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    Not to mention Andrew Jackson...
     
  14. pgabriel

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    so now we're assuming all the white dealers are republican and the minority dealers are democrat?
     
  15. krosfyah

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    "The National Association of Minority Automobile Dealers estimates that 140 of Chrysler's 170 to 175 minority-owned franchises could be closed, and at least 174 of GM's 300 minority-owned dealers could shut their doors."

    FAIL ...again.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124225921180917429.html
     
  16. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Oh that liberal WSJ -- do you take them seriously? LOL. It's amazing how much FAIL these threads accumulate. It's kind of like a limbo, with the bar ever lowering. A limbasso, if you will.
     
  17. krosfyah

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    Yea, cause the WSJ is incapable of printing a fact.

    Thread Myth: Obama is unfairly targeting dealerships to damage a Republican stronghold.

    Debunked: Shutting down dealerships impacts all walks of life.

    Reality: Car dealerships were overbuilt and it was only a matter of time before the car dealership bubble popped.
     

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