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Folks, this is real: Obama politicising the DOJ

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, May 29, 2009.

  1. Refman

    Refman Member

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    It would not be surprising. You seem to be much more moderate than most people would assume you to be.
     
  2. basso

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    so, i assuming no one will mind armed republicans at polling places in 2010/12?
     
  3. Nice Rollin

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    mcain lost. get over it.
     
  4. rhino17

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    no offense but most democrats were never got over bush winning, so thats not really a fairs statement.
     
  5. mc mark

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    Unlike 2000, there is no fraudulent indication that Obama stole the election so that's really irrelevant.
     
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    good point. and also another, obama at least yet doesnt totally suck as a president. that is relevant.
     
  7. Refman

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    If there were armed people of either party at the polling places, then they should be arrested on charges of carrying a firearm. Period. End of story.

    It still is not why McCain lost the election.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    First off, many Republican "poll watchers" were already deployed to mostly minority voting districts in order to harass voters

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    Second, the gentlemen you referred to in the top post were not armed, nor were they democrats - in fact I believe they denounced Obama as an uncle tom who was a tool of the establishment

    Third, you're a liar. Again. We know how you feel about blacks and hispanics voting.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    The meme is that Obama used a combo of voodoo and teleprompter magic to beguile Americans into voting for him.
     
  10. Rashmon

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    I keep thinking this is an old thread that got resurrected. What's next, a thread about a Che poster in Houston?

    Kind of like deja vu, but not...
     
  11. CometsWin

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    In a lot of neighborhoods they call armed republicans at polling places the police. License and registration, yessir officer!
     
  12. Refman

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    Is your contention that, in 2009, there are widespread concentrated efforts by local police departments to keep minorities from voting?

    If so, I would kindly suggest that the metal plate in your head in about 5 degrees off bubble.
     
  13. basso

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    U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Demands Answers on Voter Intimidation Case Dismissal

    [rquoter]As was commented upon here at CONTENTIONS, and widely reported and remarked upon elsewhere, the Obama Justice Department took the unusual action last month of dismissing a default judgment against the New Black Panther Party in connection with a case of voter intimidation on Election Day on November 4, 2008. Members of the NBPP were caught on film blocking access to the polls and physically and verbally intimidating voters, even going so far as to wield a nightstick in front of voters and poll watchers. The Justice Department’s lawyers gathered evidence, obtained the affidavit of former civil rights advocate Bartle Bull, and filed a complaint. When the defendants did not respond and the court invited the Justice Department to file a default judgment, the case was inexplicably withdrawn.

    The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights has now taken up the issue and sent a letter to Loretta King, Acting Assistant Attorney General of the Civil Rights Division, demanding an explanation. By a vote of 4-0 (with one member abstaining for reasons not yet clear), the Commission members voted to send the letter seeking to get to the bottom of this. After setting out the facts which gave rise to the original Justice Department complaint, the Commissioners explain:

    Though it had basically won the case and could have submitted a motion for default judgment against the Party and its members for failing to respond to the Division’s complaint, the Division took the unusual move of voluntarily dismissing the charges against all but the defendant who waived [sic] the nightstick. Yet even as to that remaining defendant, the only relief the Division requested was weak - an injunction prohibiting him from displaying the weapon within 100 feet of any polling place in Philadelphia. It has since been revealed that one of the defendants had been carrying credentials as a member of, and poll watcher for, the local Democratic committee.
    The Commissioners write that the previously announced efforts by the Justice Department to play an aggressive role in enforcing voting rights “ring hollow if they are not accompanied by swift, decisive action to prosecute obvious violators.” The Commissioners ask that the Civil Rights Division advise the Commission of the rationale for dismissing the charges against defendants and of its evidentiary and legal standards for dismissing certain charges in cases of alleged voter intimidation.” They further ask for information on “any similar cases in which CRD has dismissed charges against a defendant.”

    It should be noted that Congressman Lamar Smith (R-TX) has already sent a similar letter to the Justice Department demanding an explanation for the dismissal. It should also be noted that if the Justice Department stonewalls, the Commission does have the right to issue subpoenas and to investigate the matter further. Perhaps the Commission will get to the bottom of this issue and determine who in the Justice Department overrode the decisions of career lawyers and why the Justice Department chose to abandon a successful prosecution of the most egregious case of voter intimidation in recent memory.

    What is even more remarkable in this already eye-popping story is that an independent commission has been forced to take this matter up because the relevant oversight committees in Congress have failed to hold a single hearing concerning the matter. One would think those in Congress who squawked so loudly about alleged failure in the Bush administration to enforce civil rights laws and who objected so strenuously to “politcization” of justice by appointees meddling with the work of career attorneys would have shown more interest in the matter.[/rquoter]
     
  14. Rashmon

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    I know you can communicate in lyrics, so here you go:

    And the seasons they go round and round
    And the painted ponies go up and dawn
    Were captive on the carousel of time
    We cant return we can only look behind
    From where we came
    And go round and round and round
    In the circle game
     
  15. GladiatoRowdy

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    The irony of you calling another poster out for "dirty pool" is palpable.
     

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