1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Foiled: Iranian plot to kill Saudi Ambassador to US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. basso

    basso Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    22,852
    Likes Received:
    1,300
    was this an act of war?

    Iranian plot to kill Saudi ambassador thwarted, U.S. officials say
    By the CNN Wire Staff
    updated 3:16 PM EST, Tue October 11, 2011

    Washington (CNN) -- U.S. agents have disrupted an Iranian "murder-for-hire" scheme targeting Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday.

    Holder said the alleged plan was directed by elements of the Iranian government. A naturalized U.S. citizen holding Iranian and U.S. passports and a member of Iran's revolutionary guard were involved, the FBI said in a statement.

    "The U.S. is committed to holding Iran accountable," Holder said.
    A spokesman for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that the alleged plot "is a fabrication."

    Two charged in murder-for-hire plot Obama learned of Iran murder plot in June Who is Saudi Ambassador Al-Jubeir? Official: FBI, DEA disrupt terror plot
    Ali Akbar Javanfekr said the Iranian government is awaiting details, but suggested U.S. authorities are attempting to distract American citizens from "domestic problems" by convincing them there is an outside threat.

    A U.S. official said Tuesday that the United States is likely to respond with additional sanctions against Iran. The United States will also be taking up the issue with the U.N. Security Council and other members of the international community, the official said.

    FBI Director Robert Mueller said the alleged terror plot "reads like the pages of a Hollywood script," but the implications are real.

    "This case illustrates that we live in a world where borders and boundaries are increasingly irrelevant," Mueller said.

    An FBI agent's affidavit obtained by CNN Tuesday accused two men of conspiring to murder Saudi Ambassador Adel Al-Jubeir.

    The complaint alleges that Manssor Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen, and Gholam Shakuri, an Iran-based member of Iran's revolutionary guard, began a plot this spring to kill Al-Jubeir.

    The U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York called the alleged plot "well-funded and pernicious."

    "Details of that murder plot are chilling," Preet Bharara told reporters Tuesday.

    In the affidavit, FBI agent O. Robert Woloszyn says the case involves the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Woloszyn described the corps as an arm of the Iranian military that is suspected of being involved in a number of foreign operations.

    The IRGC is made up of a number of branches, including the Qods Force, which "conducts sensitive covert operations abroad, including terrorist attacks, assassinations, and kidnappings, and provides weapons and training to Iran's terrorist and militant allies," said the affidavit, which Woloszyn signed on Tuesday.

    The Qods Force is accused by U.S. officials as sponsoring attacks against U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, and in October 2007, the Treasury Department designed them as "providing material to the Taliban and other terrorist organizations," the affidavit said.
     
  2. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    467
    And another good job by our President!
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    40,850
    Likes Received:
    2,292
    i thought he was too busy killing border agents
     
  4. ChrisBosh

    ChrisBosh Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    4,207
    Likes Received:
    218
    I don`t get the incentive for Iran to take this kind of action.
     
  5. da_juice

    da_juice Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,315
    Likes Received:
    1,069
    Didn't a Chilean ambassdor get killed in DC by Pinochet or something? They blew up his car, he had an American women with him? He was going to give a speech?

    Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
     
  6. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    41,045
    Likes Received:
    35,521
    Heck, Pinochet killed American citizens with direct authorization from the administration in his own country.
     
  7. Rashmon

    Rashmon Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2000
    Messages:
    17,026
    Likes Received:
    9,992
    Thanks Obama.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    79,023
    Likes Received:
    27,436
  9. Don FakeFan

    Don FakeFan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    935
    Likes Received:
    42
    You will be good if just do and think the opposite way that CNN wants you to.
     
  10. Dairy Ashford

    Dairy Ashford Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,208
    Likes Received:
    1,551
    Just to disrupt the diplomatic relationship, maybe even discourage people from taking that post? Also, did Khomeni actually authorize the Embassy hijacking or just not do anything once it happened? Cuz I'm wondering if everyone over there: clerics, bureaucrats and Revolutionary Guard, are actually on the same page.
     
  11. rhadamanthus

    rhadamanthus Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2002
    Messages:
    14,304
    Likes Received:
    594
    This whole story reeks of oddities. Meh.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    111,032
    Likes Received:
    16,391
    We need more Sufism.

    DD
     
  13. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,879
    Likes Received:
    832
    So this is the story meant to distract from the Wall Street protest?
     
  14. basso

    basso Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    22,852
    Likes Received:
    1,300
    particularly the mexican drug cartel angle. how was Holder able to keep track to this plot, and yet profess ignorance of FnF? they involve many of the same people in mexico.
     
  15. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    26,052
    Likes Received:
    18,754
    personally, i think this is sufficient grounds for finally rolling out patriot act III now
     
  16. jo mama

    jo mama Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2002
    Messages:
    11,768
    Likes Received:
    4,094
    but do you get the incentive for our government to propagate this story?

    an excuse to take action against iran, which we have been clamoring to do for years.

    takes the heat off operation fast and furious, which is looking more and more like a huge scandal.

    tying iran to the zetas allows us to declare the mexican gangs as terrorists and involve ourselves in that arena.

    distraction from the growing wall street protests.

    WAG THE DOG!!!
     
  17. basso

    basso Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    22,852
    Likes Received:
    1,300
    i prefer a special prosecutor.
     
  18. Big MAK

    Big MAK Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    4,305
    Likes Received:
    322
    Lets take a page outta their book, set off a nuke in Iran, and blame it on Pakistan. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
     
  19. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    16,948
    Likes Received:
    2,724
    Let's face it; it is possible Iran decided to do this. However, it doesn't seem plausible with the neo-cons and their kissing cousins the Israeli lobby furiously lobbying to attack Iran, that Iran would risk this. Iran could certainly try to kill the Saudi somewhere else if that was their main goal in life and they would have less risk of provoking the US.

    I won't be convinced that we have the substantially true story on this till I see some more credible sources than the usual ones, including sadly the mainsteam media, that falsified the news leading up to the Iraq War. It could just be Obama trying to signal Jewish campaign donors that he can outhawk Perry or whomever wrt to Israel so please don't cut off his campaign contributions.

    My position is "who knows". Seems too convenient for the usual war mongers.
     
  20. MiddleMan

    MiddleMan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2005
    Messages:
    3,293
    Likes Received:
    267
    Bravo POTUS :grin:
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now