[Flu Season] If you haven't taken a flu shot yet, take it now.

I would like to know each of our esteemed colleagues' thoughts on who orchestrated and perpetrated 9/11 before I take all this evidence into consideration. Thank you.

 

My wife gets flu shots, lol. I dont really care one way or another, but I do think everyone should have all the information in hand before making a decision. After all, there is a reason our country has established the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. There is a very real possibility of getting adverse reactions that are incredibly harmful.

As far as you wanting information showing that there are long term effects on health...well, that's impossible for anyone to find out. Fact of the matter is that there are known toxins and carcinogens in flu shots. Yes, going through those scanners at the airports is harmful, but so is having mercury injected into your blood. Again, there is a reason we have the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act...because **** does happen. And if it can happen within years of injection, why would it not also be likely to happen later in life? There really is no way of showing that Johnny getting Alzheimers is a result of a flu shot. However, when neurotoxins are placed in the body, then there would naturally be an increase in risk of getting a neuro-related disease. That's just how medicine works.

Again, the flu shot can work against specific strains of the flu...but that is definitely no guarantee. What is a guarantee is that there are harmful side effects that can be impossible to measure. Basically, possibly being cured for one thing doesnt make it okay if it means you can be harmed in other ways. Denying that risk would be naive.

 

Your arguments are the same as people who drink distilled water because of fluoride. As a dentist who comes in close contact with many people and probably children and the elderly you should probably be getting a flu shot. You vomiting while seeing patients and pretending you were taking phone calls makes more sense now.

 

Lets give you a little information here before you make any further stupid comments.

First off, I didnt have the cold or the flu...I had eaten some funky chicken and was not feeling well.

Just so you know...my patients were informed that I was sick. I called my office manager before the office opened that day and told her I cant come in and to cancel my patients for the day. She called me back half an hour later and told me that certain patients still want to come in and that they need to see me.

With the protocol in place in the office and the cause of my sickness, the patients were not at risk of getting sick as a result of being close to me. The only issue in all this was that I had to drag myself out of bed and drive 40 minutes to work.

Patient health is my number 1 priority. If there was a risk of me getting them sick, I wouldnt be there. I didnt want to be there because I wasnt in the best shape, but sometimes, when a patient needs you, you pull up your big boy pants and go to work.

And get your story straight, I never pretended to make phone calls...not sure where you got that info from. There is no reason for me to notify them I feel like throwing up since that's just a gross thing to say to someone. But again, the patients were well aware of the situation before coming to the office.

 

rezdawg, thanks for that last post (I mean #82). We are in some ways on the same page. It's all about managing risk.

I believe that, statistically, someone is probably better off, for overall neural health, minimizing inoculations that have even these sub-threshold amounts of nasty components (by perhaps a fraction of a single percent risk). I also know, with an even stronger statistical signal, someone is better off not exposing themselves to the extra radiation during an alpine camping trip or the extra mercury in some fish.

I will keep eating fish, keep camping, and probably keep getting flu shots because (for me) the conveniences or joys offered by each of those outweighs the relatively small increase in risk for each of those. I also like to enjoy a big cheese-draped hamburger every once in a great while, even though I know with some confidence that it's not a great overall idea for my health.

But everyone has to make these decisions day by day of course. Cheers.

 

I'm sorry I got the facts wrong and you certainly know more about dental protocol and ethics than I do. If I didn't have respect for your knowledge I would have just dismissed you as a toycen type poster and posted a funny picture. I still believe your decision to not get a flu shot as a dentist highly questionable.

 

Thank you for clarifying. That said as B-Bob has noted that we are exposed and ingest all sorts of the type of chemicals that you talk about including neurotoxins. We probably get a lot more dosage of neurotoxins eating Chinese food than we do from a flu shot. At the same time we know for a fact that flu kills tens of thousands of people a year so while yes there are certain risks, like anything, to vaccination getting the flu vaccine is a reasonable gamble considering what the risks are.

Regarding the case of the cheerleader while it may very well be possible that the vaccine caused her illness considering out of millions of people who get the flu vaccine every year that does appear to be an extremely rare case.

That topic is regarding vaccines to fight cancer and not the flu. Again I have even less knowledge regarding those than vaccines in general but just reading the abstract of that article it does sound like something that this is fairly different than the flu so I'm no sure how much that applies to an argument that the flu vaccine can cause long term damage to the immune system.

 

Not sure where I heard this or where I know it from, but there is a higher percentage of doctors that dont get the flu shot over those that get the flu shot.

I know among my dental peers, maybe 1 out of 10 of us gets a flu shot. We've all had them in the past at one point or another, but very few of my dental friends has continued with them. I would say that the rate overall, of doctors/dentists getting the flu shot is on par with the national averages.

I've received two flu shots over the last 10 years. In one of those years, I was more sick than I had ever been before. The other time, I was fine throughout the entire year. All other years, I have been fine. What is interesting though is that I developed a shellfish allergy, even though I had previously eaten shellfish my whole life with no issues. Could be coincidence and not related at all...but the toxins I discussed earlier can cause allergies in people, as Ive stated, and has been written about in the past. And in my 30's, getting an allergy to shrimp does raise concerns for me. I'd be devastated if I developed an allergy to chocolate, so at least it's good that I avoided that one.

 

I mentioned in my post why flu shots can suppress the immune system...of the things I listed was T Cell function, which is the same thing that is altered in cancer vaccines. It's the same function...so that's why I posted that article, because it discusses that aspect of cancer vaccines, which is similar to how flu shots can affect the immune system too.

 

I'll do it for you.



Just kidding - thought what rezdawg is writing is interesting.

 

lol, trust me, my wife lets me know about it all the time, that Im just a dentist and not a doctor, haha.

 

doctor or angel or God, can you tell me how many folks who die annually from the flu wish they would have gotten a flu shot with the very good chance they wouldn't have gotten sick at all and/or died? out of those cases, how many did get a flu shot?

case closed.

sincerely, angel of death

p.s.: don't get a flu shot and i'll maybe be coming for you sooner than you think! ha ha ha ha ha...oh...ha ha ha ha ha ha...

 

The CDC states that approximately 36,000 people died of influenza...however, that number seems to be very misleading, as many of those people have underlying conditions that assist in their death, such as pulmonary or cardiovascular issues.

Now, you tell me how many Americans get Alzheimers, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, ALS, etc...on a yearly basis. :grin: bwahahahaha.

On a more serious note, I do ask you to read this article...

http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/Headline/influenza-virus-flu-vaccine-Peter-Doshi-Ph-D-/2013/05/16/id/504942/

And the last quote by a well known neurosurgeon, Dr. Russell Blaylock, sums it up nicely:

 

Well, that settles it. I will never get a flu shot, that's not a trade-off I'm willing to make. Flu + seafood beats no flu + no seafood.

 

We're required to get flu shots in med school, I just got mine like last week. They told us that he main reason behind getting it is apparently not just protecting yourself from the flu, but the secondary staph/pneumonia infections you can get, which are what people actually end up dying from when they get the flu.

 

And? The devil is the dose. You get more mercury annually from eating fish than from 1 flu shot. You greatly over estimated the body's ability to get rid of toxins, toxins which are in very minuscule amounts.

Of course there are preservatives in some of the vaccines for cost reasons. However, there are plenty of preservative-free pre-filled syringes that are being manufactured.

 

Interesting? I disagree, giving out information that isn't factual or misleading isn't interesting.

 

This.

Most of this anti-vaccination nonsense comes from all natural hippy like folks. A flu shot is just one method in flu prevention. Until we have cost efficient gene therapy, there will be a very minuscule portion of the population that will react adversely.

 

That's incorrect. Flu shots contain a very small amount of these scary compounds you are referring to.

A flu shot most definitely gears up your immune system to produce immune cells that will respond flu proteins that it has encountered before. This is how immunization works and how we eradicated a host of viruses that ravaged mankind. Unfortunately, the flu virus will be hard eradicate since it mutates very often, especially compared to small pox and polio.

 

Who is saying it provides prolonged protection? You need one annually because the flu virus mutates so often....

There is actual science behind all this you know?