[Flu Season] If you haven't taken a flu shot yet, take it now.

it's like taking a .22 bullet in preparation for a .45

 

The Flu shot is the biggest business scam in American history.

 

Flu vaccines could help...they can also hurt...or be completely ineffective.

There have been plenty of studies done on children which point to no change in the chance of getting a flu with or without a vaccine. The placebo seems to have the same exact effect as the actual flu vaccine.

There are potentially harmful ingredients in the vaccines that can most definitely be harmful to your nervous system. Just look at the results we have gotten from the H1N1 vaccination. Many healthy people experiencing disastrous side effects. If you are regularly getting the flu shot, chances are you will likely experience some side effect of the vaccinations at some point in your lifetime. And those side effects arent good, since they are "neuro" related.

Also, the flu vaccine contains a flu strain that experts predict will be the strain that you are most likely to get. In other words, if they guess wrong, then you will still get the flu. That's why so many people get a flu shot and still get the flu...because there is more than one strain of flu out there. When that happens, you basically received neurotoxins from the vaccine, yet benefitted zero.

Vaccines reduce the strength of your immune system. The more flu shots you get, the weaker your immune system becomes. In other words, your body starts relying more on the flu vaccine for health...than on it's natural immune response. It's similar to any drugs we normally take. If a patient is taking meds for depression...that dependency increases over time.

The list goes on. Imo, it's a total waste of money that is making pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars. You might be able to avoid the flu here and there, but in the end, youve lost money, overall health, and an increased likelihood to acquiring a debilitating neurological condition, such as Alzheimers.

 

This years shot contains multiple flu strains to fight against different strains of flu, not just one. I'm not a tinfoil hat kinda guy and get one every year when they come to our company for the free shots. I've had the flu really, really bad once and that was enough to convince me I NEVER want that ish again. I was down for 3 weeks, just wanted to die.

 

Understanding the science behind flu vaccines doesnt make someone a tinfoil hat kinda guy.

 

You mean...I got weakened long-term immunity now and I'm going to get Alzheimer's or other related neuro issues?

Hay, Caramba!

KILL ME! KILL ME NOW! I CAN'T WIN!

 

Funny guy.

 

Uh, rezdawg, would you care to counter the following list of fairly pro-vaccine peer-reviewed studies? It's an honest, non-rhetorical question, because your claims are *very* strong. I have never heard the opinion, before now, that a healthy adult will have negative long-term outcomes from flu shots. That needs some clinical support, pronto.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/publications.htm

 

Im not saying a healthy adult will have negative long term outcomes...Im saying that someone that regularly gets flu shots is more likely to experience these side effects long term.

Just look at the ingredients that are in flu shots...it's nothing you would normally want to ingest.

Beta-propiolactone - The same thing I use to sterilize my dental instruments...and has been shown to be a carcinogen.

Formaldehyde - A well known carcinogen.

Thimerosal - a mercury containing agent that is toxic. Thimerosal is also a pesticide agent.

Polysorbate 80 - contains a carcinogen.

There can also be detergents, aluminum, and MSG.

Look at what happened in Finland...many children became narcoleptic as a result of the flu shot. It's documented.

Do you remember the story of the Washington Redskin cheerleader who became paralyzed as a result of the flu shot?

The CDC even states that they have to add chemical additives to vaccines in order to preserve the vaccine.


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By the way, I randomly chose one of the articles you mentioned...and the results were this:

I mean, that pretty much backs up what I mentioned. The vaccine provided no sustained protection...so therefore, you need more vaccine. LOL.

 

Eff the flu shot. I got mine 2 weeks ago. symptoms showed up last week. body aches still havent gone away. so eff it, next year I'm gonna take my chances

 

You really believed that was caused from the Flu shot?

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/desiree-jennings-fake-muscle-disorder/story?id=11228285&page=2

 

I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure this isn't how a vaccine works.

 

Nope, defenders of vaccines state that her condition is psychogenic in nature...and that it's not related to the flu. Basically, it's not that the symptoms were fake, but her mind made her think she was sick, so therefore, she actually presented with symptoms. However, anyone that thinks there isnt at least a possibility of a biochemical reaction that took place because of the components of the vaccine, are being pretty naive. Johns Hopkins even confirmed that she was dealing with Dystonia.

Look her doctor up. Im pretty sure his job is to reverse the toxicity that happens to patients after the flu shot. And I think Desiree still has seizures or some more minor neurological conditions, but she's able to walk normally again.

To think that it was "fake" is silly.

 

What arent you sure about?

Look at my earlier post where I looked up the results of a medical study. I'll requote it here:

"The waning effectiveness"...meaning, you need to keep vaccinate for your body to keep it's ability to fight a flu. This article was published by the CDC. I havent read the whole thing, I just read the conclusion because Im at work...but the point stands.

This isnt true of just this case...it's standard. There is waning effectiveness. Every time you get the flu shot, your immune system is suppressed. Therefore, your body naturally isnt fighting as hard as it can fight. That old saying, "If you dont use it, you lose it" stays true here. What happens after years of immunosupression...and then deciding to stop the flu shot? All of a sudden, your natural immune system is not used to fighting like it was normally built to do and you can be more susceptible to getting sick. And that is exactly why we see the same results in the elderly as in children...there is almost no difference between the incidence of getting the flu with or without the flu shot.

 

Here is an article on the cheerleader...I dont think it's shocking that big companies are attacking her, nor is it coincidence.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/vaccine-victim-desiree-jennings-viciously-attacked-by-medical-establishment.html

 

i don't think i'm getting the flu but I woke up with a sore throat. probably the worst symptom of a cold. =(
thought about taking the entire month off, but I pulled through.

 

Vaccines don't directly provide protection to diseases. They gear up the immune system through exposure to a non-lethal version of the pathogen triggering the immune system to develop anti-bodies to the pathogen. That way when the actual lethal pathogen shows up the body already has the anti-bodies present to fight. The immune system is an adaptive learning system and vaccines aren't strengthening it in the sense of something like hormone replacement where an artificial source of hormones are taking some of the load off of your endocrine system so it gets weaker, but are helping to educate the immune system. If anything giving vaccines to your immune system is causing it to fight harder and one of the side effects of flu vaccine, flu like symptoms, is because it has triggered more aggressive immune response than intended.

An elderly person after a lifetime of vaccination isn't necessarily getting weaker because of vaccines but because as people get older they get weaker. Your argument that vaccination is suppressing the immune system would be like showing how a guy who lifted weights all his life couldn't lift as much when they turned 70. It's not the weights making the guys weaker it is age.

Regarding the need for revaccination as you noted earlier there are different strains of flu so there isn't really a single flu vaccine but several geared for particular strains. Also given that viruses are living creatures which mutate easily it should be no surprise that there is diminishing effectiveness of any particular flu vaccine over time since the virus is mutating to out compete the immune response that the vaccine is meant to jump start.

 

I think were talking about two different things here. Obviously, your body's immune system is strengthened in regards to the flu strain you're given from the flu shot. That's the whole point of the flu shot. That's not what Im talking about though.

Vaccines have ingredients that are immunosuppressive. For instance, the neurotoxic elements that I have mentioned, many of those also help suppress the immune system...specially the mercury containing elements.

Vaccines can alter your T-Cell function, which can hurt your immune system.

Vaccines can trigger allergic reactions due to the foreign particles being injected into our blood system.

All these things lower immunity, not enhance.

So yes, the immune system is strengthened in regards to that specific flu strain that you are getting a flu shot for...nobody debates that. However, the rest of your immune system is prone to suppression because of the ingredients in the flu shot.

Take a look at this, slightly different topic, but similar results to what Ive been talking about.

http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/15/22/6745.full

 

Separate from the cheerleader, do you think the CDC is completely in bed with big pharma? Or do you think CDC is just dumb? You cherry-picked an H1N1 tidbit, and that's fine, but I'm still waiting for a list of your peer-reviewed articles on the long-term harmful effects of these shots. You ingest scads of poisons and carcinogens every day, in all sorts of food (fish, bananas, and on and on). It's all about dosage, which you should well know.

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Folks, with due respect to our resident dentist rezdawg, who has a fine posting history and I believe is very sincere here, there are a lot of medical professionals who would find his stance a little severe. It's not a widely held medical view, from what I can tell, and that does not mean most doctors are held in the palm of evil big pharma (which, I acknowledge, *can* be pretty ruthless; they aren't sweet companies by nature).

I'm not a doctor, but I'm friends with a Nobel laureate (medicine) who gets a flu shot and is typically very skeptical of recommendations. That person, by the way, is a lot more worried about the radiation dosage in airport full-body scans than any inoculations.

Also, I have friends who are good scientists working for CDC, and they are NOT in bed with big pharma, unless they have been subjected to some sort of nefarious mind control that none of us can detect.

I don't really care if people get flu shots or not, FWIW. I skip mine some years, but often get one because I work with huge #s of students from all over the planet.

I just want people to have as accurate info as possible, even though that's a very antiquated notion in modern US America.