Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Shane Mosley May 1: Who R U Picking?

Money will win. Money can fight, he isn't just defense.

 

I guess no one wants to discuss the strategies and ideosyncracies of the actual fight that is actually going to happen tomorrow. It's too bad because this fight has "Fight of the Year" just as much as "Obliteration of the Year" potentiality.

P.S. Thx you, Harrisment

 

This is a great point...most people that make these steroid claims have no clue when it comes to supplements. And on top of that, Manny has always and for the Mayweather fight, agreed to take a blood sample IMMEDIATELY AFTER the fight. For those of you that say he's been taking performance enhancing drugs throughout his whole career and is the reason why he "refused" to fight Mayweather, answer this...how come he has never failed these post fight blood tests? If he was taking performance enhancing drugs for these fights, as in, the product would STILL have to be in his blood to be in effect, he would have failed those blood tests. There is no fake urine he can bring in, no fake penis full of urine, this is needle in the the persons vein blood testing....no way around it. The fact that he has always passed these tests says that there has been nothing illegal in his body for these fights.

"Oh he just cycles it out before the fight". If that were true, that means he eliminates the performance enhancing drugs and its "benefits" completely out of his body by fight time. Your basically saying he's juicing just to be a monster in training camp. Like many people have said, Pacman is a very superstitious person. He likes to feel like hes 100% for any fight he's about to enter. Having blood taken out of his body all the way up until weigh in, bothered him, as anybody who has had blood drawn out of their body knows that it can have physical affects.

And those of you saying that he's a fool for walking away from the biggest payday in boxing history? Do you think money really matters to him? His last 3 fights alone...

$11 million – against Oscar De la Hoya (December 2008)
$12 million – against Ricky Hatton (May 2009)
$14 million – against Miguel Cotto (November 2009)
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/manny-pacquiao-net-worth/

Thats not to mention sponsorships (NIKE). I think he's pretty set there. He's a very prideful man (turning to politics to help make changes in the Phillipines), money isn't the end all to Manny which makes the "walking away from the biggest payday" argument laughable.

 

Explain..

 

I will. I actually think Floyd will win this fight pretty easy (8-4). Shane isn't hard to hit and Floyd can pot shot him at will. I think Shane makes it interesting early (much like Judah did) but Floyd adjust and pretty much sweeps the later rounds.

 

Well, at least this is truly a big time, exciting fight -- we haven't had one of these in a long time. Next give us Haye vs. Klitschko then Paq vs. the winner tonight and 2010 will be a huge year for boxing.

 

Do you think Haye has a chance against Klitschko? He didn't look that good against Valuev and i think either Klitscho would batter him with the jab followed by the straight right?

 

Yeah that is exactly how I think it will go.

Mosley is going to try to "force" Mayweather to get into exchanges. Mayweather is too smart for that. I actually think Floyd can get a TKO victory in the late rounds. I'm thinking 10th or 11th. Shane will be gassed by then and he will be open for combos.

I love how people are praising Mosley's power, yet the last KOs he has had were against trash opposition, other than Margocheato. He KOed Tony because he stands in front of you with minimal defense and absorbs punches. Plus Tony was mentally out of it after having his precious plaster discovered before the fight.

Shane knocked out Mayorga, woopty do. Another guy who has no idea what defense is. Then he beat the crap out of Vargas, twice. Who hasn't beat Fernando Vargas?

Anyway, people are putting too much faith in Shane's power. His power punching isn't disciplined, he punches like he is in a street fight. Those crazy over hand rights he throws are going to roll off Floyd's shoulder all night. Shane has no jab. The key to beating a slick boxer is a great jab and solid right hand. Mosley will match Floyd's speed in the first 4 rounds. After that, it is cruise control for Floyd. Boxing lesson for Shane tonight to send him into retirement.

 

I don't think Haye can beat either Klitschko yet. Haye has the power but he still has a lot to work on. Hell even Ruiz had him shook a couple times. Ruiz landed shots on Haye that would knock him out if they came from Vlad or Vitaly.

 

May 1st will be Money May's 1st loss....

 

Should Mosley decide to stand in front of Mayweather and play the counterpuncher's role, something he has always been quick enough to do successfully, Sugar will get flattened. Mayweather's hand speed and cumulative punching prowess will be too much for Shane (or any other fighter) to withstand. Sugar's biggest career fights (De La Hoya, Margarito, et al) pitted him against guys that, yes, were powerful punches but were not able to deal with his hand speed. Mayweather is more than equipped to deal with it. Floyd often fires combinations while leaning back or backing up. It's incredible to watch because he lives up to the boxing mantra: "hit and not get hit".

Another foibled strategy would be to try to dance with PBF. Running around the ring looking to catch Floyd offguard with a bomb is a recipe for eating a straight right hand. Floyd may not LIKE to mix it up, but do not be fooled. He has the skill to do it and the technique to take out Sugar with a flurry of pinpoint punches.

I'll say it again: there is only one way to beat Mayweather and it is with persistant, committed jabs. Yes, the need to counter is there, as soon enough Floyd will start to "jump in". However it is ALL set up by neutralizing his speed with a jackhammer jab. Slow him down and get him to become the plodding aggressor.

 

anyone aware of any bars in houston area showing the fight tonight???

 

*sigh* Zab "Super" Judah. *sigh*

So much wasted talent. Faster than Floyd. Ring General. Strong left. Brazen. Attention span and intelligence of a house fly.

Zab showed that if you fire a jab at Floyd and "get off" 1st, you can put Floyd offbalance. Floyd did eventually adjust and use his size/strength advantage to beat Judah, but there are still pearls in that ocean. Mosley would do himself well to study that fight and realize that he is the stronger, more physical fighter of the two with comparable hand speed.

 

I found this.
http://image.examiner.com/x-39304-H...ayweather-vs-Mosely-where-to-watch-in-Houston

I know you're on the west side and I know Fox and the Hound always has the fights for like a $10 cover, so that's a safe bet. That article says all BW3's will have it so that's probably what I'm going to try to do. I'm going to call the new one on Washington here shortly and verify they'll have the fight.

 

I was really surprised with how bad Haye beat up Ruiz. I was definitely expecting him to win, but not by KO/TKO. Ruiz isn't a great fighter, but he is a very tough guy. As for the Valuev fight - I don't know how you look good against a guy who outweighs you by a hundred pounds. Can Haye beat Klitscho - I really don't know -but it will definitely be an exciting fight. All the pre-fight trash talk will be fun - they really hate each other. No way it goes the distance - someone will get knocked out.

 

I heard Floyd is going to surprise A LOT of people. Everyone expects him to dance and do pop shots all night but from what I hear, he's going to come out gunning. He wants to stop Shane. Now this is the Floyd I want to see. Not those pop shots, one punch at a time, don't put me to sleep Floyd.

As for Manny and steriods, I don't think steriods can make you a better boxer. Because that's exactly what happened. The Pacquiao that fought Morales, Barrera and Marquez, is not the same Pacquiao that fought Hatton, Oscar, Cotto, Clottey or even David Diaz. Before, Pac was merely a slugger/brawler. Now, he's a more complete boxer-puncher. The "slugging" Pacquiao probably loses to Oscar, Cotto and perhaps Clotty.

 

I like Shane but people are overrating him based on the Margarito fight. There are a lot of variables to consider there off the bat. Plus, Shane was arguably losing the fight to Mayorga until the 12th and he has been ****ty in sparring. Floyd is going to make a statement.


Glad you posted bro. I got Danny to sign a pic for you but I deleted your email addy by accident (your name is Jose correct?). We are fighting on the 15th on the Malignaggi/Khan undercard. Duddy and Manfredo won't fight Danny. Weak

Check out Omar Henry and Erislandy Lara. They are both working down here now and have bright futures. If you want to check them (and Danny) out hit me up and I'll tell you what time to come to Savannahs.

 

haye hates to get hit. If it's Wladimir, he's got a puncher's chancce based on what we have seen. Still, I justthink he's too small. If he could have cut to 175 I would have loved to see him against Chad Dawson

 

Zab is the most dissapointing fighter I've ever watched. He was Sweat Pea with power if he was dedicated. I still felt he was a tougher match up then Shane. i don't see Shane being able to work behind a jab against Flod. Nasim saying they were going to let Floyd iniciate the action really scares me. It sounds like they are going to have Shane look to counter and that is all wrong. The Shane that looked for one punch at a time with Jack looked like he was done. Hopefully it's only mind games

 

Agreed on this. Haye really did a great job marketing himself by what he did to the Klitschkos. The severed head thing was great. Vitali brought Tony Grano (the guy who upset Travis Kaufman) to Austria for three weeks. That's outstanding sparring. I think he plans on fighting longer then we give him credit for. Wlad is already kind on Hollywood.

Side note. What do you think or Sergio Martinez? Top 10 p4p in my opinion. Even though he's 36, he doesn't have boxing miles on him because he started at 20 and doesn't have the amatuer transition to deal with. Look at how Shawn Estrada is still fighting at pro like 12 fights in.