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Florida teen rejects plea deal in controversial same-sex case

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  1. Luckyazn

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    (CNN) -- Eighteen-year-old Kaitlyn Hunt, charged with a crime for having sex with a 14-year-old girl, rejected a deal Friday that would have required her to plead guilty to child abuse, according to Hunt's attorney.
    Hunt was charged with two felony counts of lewd and lascivious battery after the parents of the 14-year-old went to authorities. Hunt's family says their relationship was consensual, but in Florida a person under the age of 16 is not legally able to give consent to sex.

    If Hunt is convicted, she could go to prison for 15 years -- a reality that touched off a maelstrom of controversy across the country this past week. The case became widely known when Hunt's family began an online campaign in defense of their daughter.

    The plea deal from the Indian River County prosecutor's office would have required Hunt to plead guilty to felony child abuse, spend two years "on community control," which usually involves strict supervision, followed by one year of probation. According to the plea deal document, during her probation, Hunt would have had to agree to stay away from the 14-year-old, and to provide her probation officer with immediate access to her Internet and telephone communication.

    In a statement saying that Hunt was rejecting the plea deal, her attorney, Julia Graves, wrote: "This is a situation of two teenagers who happen to be of the same sex involved in a relationship. If this case involved a boy and girl, there would be no media attention to this case.
    "Our client is a model citizen. She has been placed in an environment of school with her classmates where they go to school together, have lunch together, and play on the same team and are allowed to have communication and contact without barriers. Then when something develops between the two as a result of this environment created by the state, it leads to criminal prosecution."

    "If this incident occurred 108 days earlier when she was 17, we wouldn't even be here," the attorney wrote.

    Earlier this week, Hunt cried in front of news crews.
    "I'm scared of losing my life, the rest of my life," she said, "not being able to go to college or be around kids, be around my sisters and my family."
    In response, Charles Sullivan Jr., the attorney for the 14-year-old girl's family said they had been hoping the case would be resolved by now.
    Now the 14-year-old girl may have to take the witness stand if the case goes to court, Sullivan said.

    "No parent wants their child to have to testify in court, but unfortunately the reality of our system is we have a system where a defendant has the right to have all the witnesses present. It's just the aspect of our law," Sullivan said. "It's a difficult process but it's a necessary process in our system of justice."
    The case has been a lightning rod for controversy after Hunt's family went public on Facebook, describing their daughter's case and essentially accusing the victim's family of going after their daughter because she is gay.
    The victim's family said that isn't true; they are only trying to protect their 14-year-old.

    The American Civil Liberties Union has spoken out in defense of Hunt and an online petition by Change.org had attracted some 270,000 signatures by Friday afternoon. They say the punishment does not equal the crime.
    Despite the online furor, a case like this isn't all that unusual, said David LaBahn, president of the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys, a national professional group.

    "Prosecutors get these kinds of cases all the time, and it's almost always parents who come to them saying that something like this has happened," said LaBahn, who worked as a trial attorney in California for 10 years and focused on prosecuting sex crimes for four years.
    The amount of difference between the alleged perpetrator's age and the victim's age weighs heavily in whether a prosecutor moves forward on a case, he said.

    "If you had an 18- and 17-year-old, there may be some investigation," he said.

    "If the 17-year-old says it was consensual, that would probably be the end of it and you wouldn't have charges."

    But in this case, 18 and 14 is a wide gap, he said. "According to law in Florida, this is a crime."

    It doesn't matter -- and shouldn't matter -- what people in an online community who don't have the investigative details of a case believe, he said.
    He drew a comparison to the Jodi Arias case currently under way in Arizona. Many people -- even those on the jury -- said they couldn't conceive how a petite woman who claimed she'd been the victim of domestic violence could repeatedly stab her boyfriend, as she admits doing.

    "As a prosecutor you cannot be influenced by anything other than the facts," he said.

    If the Hunt case goes to trial, the prosecutor is likely to try to put on witnesses who can show that the 14-year-old was damaged psychologically by engaging in sex at such a young age, and that she wouldn't have normally done such a thing.

    In an interview with CNN affiliate WPEC, Jim and Laurie Smith insisted that the girls' gender has nothing to do with the case. They are concerned about ages.

    "Our daughter was 14, and this girl was 18," said Jim Smith.
    According to the Smiths, they twice warned Hunt to stop.
    "I had another adult, who is a mother, she came to me and said, 'Ms. Smith, you need to know this. She said, 'We told Ms. Hunt to leave your daughter alone but they are in a relationship. And, she's 18.'"

    Laurie Smith said she was shocked. Her daughter was just too young, she thought.

    The 14-year-old began to act out, the Smiths told WPEC.
    Then one weekend morning the Smiths went to their daughter's bedroom and discovered she was missing.

    They panicked, thinking someone took their daughter or that she was hurt. "Her running away was the furthest thing from our mind," said Jim Smith. "We thought ... you hear about kids getting abducted from their homes."
    But they later learned that Hunt had picked their daughter up, they told WPEC.

    "We had no other alternative but to turn to the law, use it basically as a last resort," Jim Smith said.

    Bloggers have called Laurie Smith a gay basher and accused her of being abusive to her daughter. Numerous news reports have asked whether the Smiths went after the teen because of her sexual orientation.
    But Smith says her goal is to protect her 14-year-old, and she will not relent.
    "I will be an advocate of what she needs," the mother told WPEC. "The stories that people are saying ... I love my daughter. ... I'm willing to do whatever to protect her."

    "This whole story about you blaming Kate for making your daughter gay ... where did that come from?" a reporter asked the parents.
    "I don't know. It didn't come from us. That's not how we feel," Jim Smith answered.

    Still, Hunt's supporters say she is being prosecuted because she was in a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex. A Facebook support page the Hunt family set up called "Free Kate" has gathered more than 47,000 names.

    The online petition grew from 150,000 signatures Thursday to nearly 270,000 early Friday afternoon. The petition asks prosecutors to drop the case.
    But not everyone who is posting online might have the facts of the case. A glance at postings on Facebook and Twitter show that some people are getting the ages of the girls wrong. Others have posted erroneously that Hunt is being prosecuted for numerous other charges.

    Regardless, everyone seems upset about the effect a felony child abuse conviction would have on Hunt, if she agreed to the plea deal.

    LaBahn told CNN that a felony child abuse conviction would mean that Hunt would have to disclose her felony conviction on employment applications and she could never serve on a jury. She would be prohibited from voting for a period of time, though each state has different time frames for that rule, the attorney said. She may not be able to secure student loans either, he said, and she might not be allowed to adopt or obtain a childcare license.
    Graves, Hunt's attorney, had earlier asked that the charges be reduced to a misdemeanor.

    "This is a life sentence for behavior that is all too common, whether male, female, gay, straight," Graves said at a Wednesday news conference.
    "High school relationships may be fleeting," she said, "but felony convictions are forever."
     
  2. Smokey

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    If this is true, I don't care what happens to Hunt.
     
  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    if they warned her idk....still fishy though
     
  4. Luckyazn

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    So what happens if you are 16 dating a girl who's 14 and then you turn 18?
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    This is a huge flaw in our legal system -- there are a lot of good people that have to register for life as sex offenders because of situations just like this.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    thats a two year gap. The analogy in this case would be a 17 year old guy dating a 14 yr old girl and then turning 18. The major point would be how the girl's parents felt about it. If they said no and the dude kept going on all of use would be saying "You a dumbass *****."
     
  7. tamericus

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    Pretty much sums it up.
     
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    Yep, my uncle is a registered sex offender bc of this. He was 18 dating a 16 year old. He is still listed as a medium risk despite being 40 years old now with no other convictions.
     
  9. Harrisment

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    When I was 15 I dated an 18 year old girl. Should've gotten her locked up.
     
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    Did the parents actually sit down and talk to both girls about the relationship? Regardless of their sexuality, you tell your teenage children to stop dating someone, are they actually gonna listen or is it going to drive them further away? That just seems like a recipe for disaster. And why exactly was she told to stay away? Four years might seem like a wide gap but they go to the same school, involved in the same clubs and programs. And did they ever stop to think what kind of psychological effect this whole situation now is having on their daughter...bringing authorities into it?

    That said, being an adult now, she should have understood the ramifications of being in a relationship with a minor, however right or wrong the law is in this case. She kept her pants on she wouldn't be in this situation.
     
  11. khanhdum

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    lol

    and i'd hit it
     
  12. juicystream

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    Eh. Not the first freshman-senior relationship. They exist in every school.
     
  13. rocketsfeeva

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    Never understood why people who like them young folks just wait until they're at legal age. It'll save ya a lot of trouble.
     
  14. Haymitch

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    Harrisment,

    Teach me your ways.
     
  15. Johndoe804

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    You look at this the wrong way. Why does the law criminalize this? Why does the law make trouble for people who aren't doing anything morally wrong?
     
  16. SwoLy-D

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    That's just your opinion. In the eyes of the law, only adults can have consensual sexual relations. No "win" for the teens here. :eek: Until this law is changed, it is illegal for anyone OVER the age to date (in reality, to have sex with ) anyone UNDER the age of consent in that state. OOPS.

    Genders don't matter. Anyone who is over the age of consent dating anyone under the age of consent is committing a crime.

    That is absolutely true and your right. You didn't think that was LEGAL, did you? ;)
     
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    Lol so the familys only unhappy because their 14 year old is having sex with another girl? Im sure theyd be absolutely ecstatic if their daughter was having sex with an 18 year old boy.
     
  18. Haymitch

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    Now, I know you aren't saying it's his right to be statutorily raped, so that means you're in need of a refresher course on the difference between your and you're.
     
  19. Dairy Ashford

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    Sorry, but them's some crazy eyes.
     
  20. KingCheetah

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    An 18 yo girl can start a p*rn career and get gang banged by 40-50 year old men, but a (just turned) 18 yo in a long-term relationship with 14 yo gets labeled a child molester for the rest of her life -- that's a major problem with our legal system.
     

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