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Florida motorist drives home with man in windshield

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Woofer, Jul 8, 2003.

  1. Rocketman95

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    True, but you have to admit that it's very understandable that the guy freaked out.
     
  2. DVauthrin

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    Because the guy should have pulled over immediately. I give him credit for calling 911 and only going a mile, something mallard didn't even come close to doing.

    But if you have someone lodged in your windshield, it's just common sense to stop and pull over immediately. Not a mile up the road.

    I can understand panicking, but driving a mile with a human being lodged in your windshield which could harm you and most definitely harm them, is really dumb, no matter how you slice it.
     
  3. Rocketman95

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    No, it's not dumb, it's human nature.
     
  4. Major

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    True, but you have to admit that it's very understandable that the guy freaked out.

    Oh, I agree - these two cases are entirely different. If he was charged with something, I would hope it would be fairly minor. Nevertheless, what he did was a potential danger to the guy's life if we was still alive.
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    Very true, but I don't think any charges should be filed against him (not saying you feel that way too).

    Now, charges of stupidity should be filed against our players. :mad: :D
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    I think it is relatively safe to assume that the guy was already dead, missing the lower half of his body, one arm, and probably having multiple other injuries.

    It sounds like a scene out of some horror movie. However, the guy didn't have a cell phone, there was nobody else around and possibly, he could immediately see that the guy was dead already. He probably also panicked. Although the right thing to do would have been to stop and take any possible measure to see if he could still help the guy even if he thought he was dead, considering all the circumstances, I don't see of what you would convict the guy (if he was not negligent in causing the accident itself). Imagine this young kid all alone with the dead body in a possibly deserted spot, trying to get that body out of the windshield, not having a phone to call someone else to help. Terrifying.
     
  7. DVauthrin

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    Look, I give the guy credit for only driving a mile and calling 911, but damn he is not a saint in all this.

    I don't know about you but if I hit someone with the front of my car, I would stop, pull over and check and make sure he is alright.

    Not continue driving for a mile before I decide to get help.

    It is minor, but it definitely is negligent behavior, not nearly to Mallard's extent though.

    It still is pretty idiotic if you ask me.

    And just because Florida PD decided not to file any charges doesn't mean he didnt act stupidly or inappropriately.

    Heck, this is the same state that can't get a simple voting procedure right.
     
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    I still can't get over the stupidity of Rocket River. Pulling out the race card like that is just one of the dumbest things I have seen in a while. Rocket River, please tell me you were trying to make a bad joke or something - if you cannot see the difference between the two cases, you need help. Plus, although the issue of race is COMPLETELY besides the point here, how do you even know the kid is not black?

    In one case, a kid - apparently without being at fault - hit and killed a guy, then drove to the next house he knew and somehow police was called. In the other case, some lady hit a guy, knew he was still alive, drove to her house, let the guy painfully bleed to death in her garage while she was having sex inside her house. She KNEW the guy was alive because she actually went back to the garage a few times to see if he was still alive. She also later went and bragged at a party, giggling, about what had happened.

    And you have the nerve to pull out the race card and say that was the difference.

    If the rolleyes weren't there, they would have to be invented for people like you.

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    I completely concur SJC. I keep hoping that he'll come in and apologize.
     
  10. Smokey

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    It doesn't matter where he stopped cause the man died on impact. Had the man died later I guess you could throw a failure to render aid at him. He didn't do the logical thing, but then again we weren't in his situation. It was a freak accident. Perhaps he thought he could get the police quicker by going home instead of flagging down other motorists. I guess I'm trying to say he did what he (in his state of mind) could do.
     
  11. R0ckets03

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    I didn't know a person can be this dumb.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    People on this BBS are always spouting off like this without backing up their posts! :mad: SirJC, we need some legitimate sources to back up this assertion! ;)

    But seriously folks, what if you pulled over and the guy bleeds to death while you're waving at traffic. Even though the guy died, he probably got medical attention much more quickly this way.

    It's such an odd case. You shouldn't pick up a badly injured person and try to get them to help. But what if the person is lodged to your car somehow? I never heard anything about that in driver's ed.

    Maybe now this topic will receive routine coverage. :D Can you imagine? In your driver's test, they lodge a crash test dummy in your windshield and watch for your reaction. Maybe you should have to parallel park with someone lodged in your windshield.
     
  13. Major

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    It doesn't matter where he stopped cause the man died on impact.

    Except we don't know that... from the third line of the article:

    <I>The medical examiner will determine if Markert survived the impact, but it's more likely that he died immediately, said Mark O'Keefe of EVAC, which provides emergency services for Volusia County.
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    He probably did, but it apparently wasn't completely clear. It would be hard for a 19 yr old kid to know with certainty if the medical examiner still hasn't determined it conclusively yet.
     
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    Once a guy jumped out in front of me on his bike and I hit him in Houston. He went flying over my car. It was night. I immediately stopped. I didn't have a cell. I stood in front of traffic and waved down help. When the police came they took a full report and told me that I was completely in the right and did the right thing. I was scared sh!tless but instead of thinking of myself and getting out of there I immediately felt for the injured pedestrian and took the steps that I thought would help him. He turned out to live and make off with only a broken leg and some ribs and a concussion. The biker was driving the opposite direction of traffic and turned out to be intoxicated.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    I wouldn't have criticized you had you done what this guy did.
     
  16. LeGrouper

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    It is called hit and run. You got to jail for it. When you take your drivers license exam there is a question about it. What do you do if you strike a pedestrian or another vehical. STOP!
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    The authorities disagree with you, in this case.

    But thanks for the legal lesson.
     
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    But in this case, the scene of the accident moves around with you.
     
  19. LeGrouper

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    That's awesome B-Bob, and don't get legally condescending to me RM95, if you have some legal insight, let me in on it instead of just saying nah nah nah nah.... I was just freaking glad I didn't get in trouble when it happened. I don't see how hit and run can be confused. I think you have a time frame to come back or notify the police if you think you have hit someone but freaking driving with someone stuck in your windshield is kind of like continuing to hump a girl after her head has fallen off. It just seems like stopping would be prudent.
     
  20. B-Bob

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    Have to quote this in case you decide to edit. It is the weirdest, most hilariously dark thing I have ever read. I would definitely stop in the 2nd case.

    Still, the first case confuses me. What if I was 10 feet from my driveway and I didn't have a cell phone? What if I was 200 feet from my driveway?
     

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