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Florida highway closed...3 possible terrorists arrested

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by NJRocket, Sep 13, 2002.

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  1. RocketsPimp

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    I don't mean to answer for Cohen, but I wouldn't be suspicious as to who they were or what they were discussing just because they are middle eastern. They guys that work at the local "quickie mart" are middle eastern, but I don't look at them suspiciously everytime I go into to buy gas or snacks.
     
  2. drapg

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    Look, i've posted in this thread many, many times. I appear to be in the minority and rather than continue to waste the precious server space, I will cease from posting. Especially considering I'm being called a racist, which is an extremely hurtful and insulting sentiment.

    I do appreciate the back and forth open banter. But this doesn't seem to be solving anything.

    I respect everyone's right to their own opinion and the freedom to state it, even if I disagree.

    Enjoy the debating.
     
  3. F.D. Khan

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    Racist and Ignorant, actually.
     
  4. Major

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    maybe you're the racist...given the same scenario you're so quick to call the caucasian a liar instead of giving credence to the thought of some misunderstanding...

    I don't think dragp said she was a liar. He said that he has no idea who's lying (one of them obviously is), and thought it was odd that most Americans automatically believe the woman.
     
  5. NJRocket

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    Being ignorant would be to ignore the situation
     
  6. NJRocket

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    Mad Max ..is that UNBELIEVABLE how drapg turned that whole thing into you calling him a racist??? Almost laughable.
     
  7. MadMax

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    you're absolutely right...my bad

    i was trying to point out how just as easily the logic can be twisted around to say the other side is being racist...but i didn't do it very well.

    however, i think there is a plausible scenario where neither are liars and one just made an honest mistake...
     
  8. 4chuckie

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    I don't know who is lying here but:

    Boys will be boys. I believe these guys may have saw the lady listening in and decided to fool around. If this is the case the obviously went way to far. Obviously they are not 100% law abiding citizens, they were originally busted when one of the cars ran a toll booth.

    Finally racism is a dangerous word, but keep this in mind:

    As a white male there are words that I can't use (the N word) that others can. There are people who get offended about jokes that I can tell that they would not get offended if one of their own tells the story. So if that is the case I think the same could apply that after 9/11 there is a topic (terrorism in general) that should not be joked about by anyone and most notably not by those with brown skin who could be perceived as looking like one of the 19. Now is that right? I dunno but it's the way it is. The world isn't fair so deal with it.
     
  9. Cohen

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    Not according to them.
     
  10. Cohen

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    drapg,

    Several were called racist here and the moniker should be used with caution, particularly on a BBS where miscommunication is more common than face-to-face speech.
     
  11. 4chuckie

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    Cohen what not according to them? They didn't run a toll booth? So they are saying the cop is lying too? Wow a conspiracy already! :rolleyes:
     
  12. giddyup

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    Does anybody know the race of the waitress who turned these jokers in?
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    It depends on why you were supicious. If you were suspicious just because they were of mid-eastern heritage, it would be racist. It doesn't matter that 9/11 happened. 9/11 is no excuse for racism. In fact it's more of a reason to hold to the American ideal of equality.
     
  14. NJRocket

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    I think she was a white patron...but regardless, she was on CNN and said that in her family, there are whites, blacks, mexicans and palestinians among other races/nationalities
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    If the mere fact that men who's heritage is middle-eastern board a plane that you are supposed to be on is reason to be uncomfortable, and not get on, it could well be racism on your part. If you heard what the waitress heard, then it's different. But if you were suspicious of them men, just on the sight of them, then it is racism.
     
  16. NJRocket

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    wrong again...what other possible reason would I have for being suspicious other than what they look like? How would you suggest we be alert as Americans?

    Where you are DEAD WRONG is that you think that it doesnt matter that 9-11 happened, that it doesnt give us an excuse to profile. It gives Americans about 3000 reasons to profile. If it makes middle eastern men uncomfortable, too bad. Thats the way things are going to be around here until we stop finding cells of middle easterners holed up in bodegas across the country
     
  17. NJRocket

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    No...its being on guard. If you want to not worry about it...be my guest. I can be as suspicious as I want if there are middle eastern men boarding my plane....you know why???? Because they are middle eastern looking men..and for no other reason...because it was middle eastern looking men that were behind 9-11...and because every friggin terrorist arrested since then with the exception of Jose Padilla is middle eastern looking.....and because every terrorist on the FBI watch list is middle eastern looking.

    Mods...sorry for not being politically correct on this issue but if this is the way the conversation is going to go, I cant be quiet about it
     
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    Was she a waitress or a patron? May not matter, but it almost seems like a deragotory title to heep on this "white trash" lady.
     
  19. NJRocket

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    patron...she was sitting with her son
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    It's not being on guard. Being on guard would be keeping an eye on everyone so that people don't slip through. Racial profiling is actually not being on guard but being lazy, and racist.

    Yes you can be suspicious if you want to be racist, and un-American. It's entirely up to you.

    The shoe bomber was not mid-eastern. The white Jewish terrorist in Florida was not mid-eastern. The white woman who's backpack had explosives in it was not mideastern.
    It's not even about being politically incorrect to me. It's about catching people who would perform terrorist acts. Profiling isn't effective, and doesn't work. It didn't work in the war on drugs, and there have been numerous cases where either it didnt' work here, or being suspicious of people who aren't from the mid-east paid off.
     

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