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Florida highway closed...3 possible terrorists arrested

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by NJRocket, Sep 13, 2002.

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  1. Cohen

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    Until it is proven that they said what is claimed, and that it isn't some misunderstanding, I won't judge these guys.

    I honestly can tell nothing from their appearances which would lead me to believe that they are lying. I heard them speak, and where others may sense smugness, I'm leaving the door open that they were simply exhibiting an extreme sense of confidence in their innocence.

    I don't know how others can determine so much more about these guys.

    BTW NJRocket,
    I'm surprised that you said that. I would have no problem having dinner with these guys.
     
  2. NJRocket

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    I agree Cohen...I shouldnt be so quick to bash...however, can you honestly tell me that if you saw those 3 guys sitting in a booth next to you at a restaurant, given the state of our country and what has gone on the past year, that you wouldn't be even a little bit suspicious as to who they were or what they were discussing?
     
  3. drapg

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    of course they would, its called P.R. The hospital doesn't want to be associated with negative publicity, whether its true or not.
     
  4. drapg

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    why is it tougher to accept the statements of a foreigner than it is to accept those of a caucasian?

    irrational thinking like racism can lead people to all extremes, even creating false stories and calling the police.
     
  5. Nutcracker

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    not to sound racist? i dont see how that last comment could come off any other way. That was a very racist comment.
     
  6. NJRocket

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    Maybe so...but they wouldnt want to be seen as discriminatory either
     
  7. drapg

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    but basing on the statements in this thread alone, people don't seem to consider this discrimination or racism, rather american civic and patriotic duty. i'm sure most of the rest of the country agrees.

    I was listening to that arrogant fool Mike Gallagher on the radio this morning and he was advocating that the hospital kick the 3 men out and that they be deported, without even knowing the full story. Every single caller agreed.

    So it doesn't seem like discrimination to most of the nation.
     
  8. NJRocket

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    it wasnt a racist comment...it was a brutally honest comment....and i would be shocked...i mean absolutely friggin shocked , if any American of any color on this bbs wouldnt take a second look at those 3...whether they were in a diner, a movie theater, an airplane etc
     
  9. drapg

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    that is blatant racism.
     
  10. MadMax

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    wow...what a big assumption you just made about me.

    and you know what they say about ASSumptions.

    so you read in racism in my logic?? i'm sorry but that has absolutely nothing to do with it. thanks for playing...we have some lovely parting gifts for you.
     
  11. drapg

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    well than, please straighten me out rather than just blowing me off. I would appreciate that.
     
  12. MadMax

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    1. please don't jump to the conclusion that i'm a racist simply for saying i believe one side over the other...caucasians lie...non-caucasians lie...americans lie...foreigners lie...no one is pure, drapg.

    2. i blew you off because i don't appreciate the insinuation...having said that...i believe it is far more likely these guys either 1). said what she said they said or 2) said something that sounded like what she said they said....i just think it's far less likely that this woman and her son made up this story and followed through with it all night and all day then it is that these guys didn't say SOMETHING that alarmed her.

    3. you see racism pretty quickly...the fact is, right or wrong, we're all a little shaken up. i mean the profile of who is supposedly gunning for us is pretty clear...you can call the woman a racist all you like from far away...but to know what actually happened in that diner is to know the truth...you're speculating and calling it truth and throwing around heavy words like racism...i'm speculating and calling it my best guess.
     
  13. NJRocket

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    my sentiments exactly...being suspicious about these men is being alert...not racist
     
  14. Cohen

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    Honestly, would I pay more attention to their actions than average? Yes. Would I feel uncomfortable about their presence? Absolutely not.

    I'm not judging your response. I saw their interview and did not sense anything wrong. Others may sense different things from the interview, and they may be right. Personally, I just didn't see a problem with these guys.
     
  15. drapg

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    1. I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

    2. What I'm trying to say is that racist thinking is irrational in itself. IF in fact this woman is a racist, than one can't put it past her to go through with the irrational act of following through on her prejudices by creating a huge charade for public media to scrutinize the people towards whom her racist feelings are aimed.

    3. Yes I do see racism quickly, seeing as how I've been a victim of it for my entire life in one manner or another. And you're right, to know what happened in that diner IS to know the truth. But we don't know what happened in that diner, yet everyone is naturally assuming the woman is telling the truth and the 3 men are lying (sp?). Why? b/c the three men fit a certain profile. Therefore, I assert racism or racial profiling from that sentiment.
     
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    What if they were getting ready to board your plane? Im being 100% serious. I know I would be uncomfortable..possibly to the point that I wouldnt get on.
     
  17. Cohen

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    Originally posted by drapg
    but basing on the statements in this thread alone, people don't seem to consider this discrimination or racism, rather american civic and patriotic duty. i'm sure most of the rest of the country agrees.

    If the woman believes she heard something, she needed to report it.

    I was listening to that arrogant fool Mike Gallagher on the radio this morning and he was advocating that the hospital kick the 3 men out and that they be deported, without even knowing the full story. Every single caller agreed.

    So it doesn't seem like discrimination to most of the nation.


    I imagine that the callers who listen to an arrogant fool on the radio may not constitute a statistically relevant sample of the American population (what where you doing listening to an arragant fool , anyway? ;) ).
     
  18. Cohen

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    Maybe, but there are other possibilities.

    NJRocket didn't just see a picture, he saw an interview. If he sensed they were being smug, disingenuous, etc., combinde with 9-11, he could have a different bases for his concern.
     
  19. NJRocket

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    Cohen...he was telling me I was being a racist because I said I would look suspiciously at the 3 men...not because of how I perceived the interview(im only pointing this out because im sure drapg will tell you as well)
     
  20. MadMax

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    no need to have me post my thinking on the matter if you're going to disregard it...i told you why i think it's more likely the guys said something either jokingly or something that could be easily misconstrued...

    maybe you're the racist...given the same scenario you're so quick to call the caucasian a liar instead of giving credence to the thought of some misunderstanding...
     

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