Flip side: didn't Romney come awful close to winning?

Needing to flip 4 states, in each of which you are either trailing by a significant margin in the average of polls (Ohio, VA, CO) or at best tied (Florida) in order to win means this isn't a very good path to victory.

On election eve, Nate Silver had Obama with a 90% chance of winning Ohio, an 80% chance of winning CO and VA, and a 50% chance of winning Florida. Even accounting for some interdependence among the state voting results, Romney's chance for sweeping all 4 was slim.



There is a reason why Nate Silver projected only an 9.1% chance of Romney winning on election eve, after accounting for all of his possible paths to victory.

 

Watch House Republicans toss themselves off the side of a cliff out of loyalty to their rich sugar daddies. If the GOP fights Obama on taxes, they will lose the House in two years. Book it.

 

So this means that Republicans are going to have to rely on bat-****-looney "free-marketeer" type garbage to connect with voters from now on.

....I think the Republicans are done.

 

1. Republicans were anti-science
2. Republicans were anti-social progress
3. Republicans were anti-reproductive choice
4. Republicans were for international confrontation in a war weary nation
5. Republicans were for tax cuts for the people that have made more money over the last decade
6. Republicans did not offer any plans for or facts about their economic proposals
7. Republicans were disingenuous, and inconsistent in their party platform
8. Republicans destroyed their own candidates in the primaries
9. Republicans let their party be run by people who are only interested in elected power not elective service
10. The Republicans took no responsibility for the second greatest economic meltdown in our history and only proposed returning to the very same policies
11. Republicans tried to dupe the public into voting for them with distortion, lies and racist undertones about the sitting President Of The United States

more?

 

Nobody is calling for a recount. Nobody is disputing Obama's win.

Romney and McCain were not well received by their own party.
In 2008, Obama was well received by his party and in 2012, he was still well received but a bit of his support was eroded.

Obama had McCain at 52.9 to 45.7 for a 7.2% difference.

Obama had McCain at 50.6 to 47.9 for a 2.7% difference.

7.2% is "handily". 2.7% is just getting by. For someone whom much of his own party claims to be the best president since FDR, this would be a very weak win against a very poor Republican candidate.

 

how does the % of difference in EVs compare for the last 2 elections?

 

In the last century, only four presidents have received over 50% in the general election. Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan and Obama.

Slice and dice the numbers any way you want. President Obama is in rarified air and has a HUGE mandate going forward.

 

50% twice I meant to say.

 

"Only Florida, Virginia, Ohio and Colorado? Gotcha

 

"Come close to winning" means that there is a more or less simple thing that the GOP can point to to make the results of the election different or that there is something random that cost him the win (for example, if the Rockets "came close to winning a game," it would typically be one of those 1 or 2 possession games where they could have won had they just made a shot or two more, or grabbed a key rebound here or there).

So, if you guys think Romney came close to winning, tell me what he and his campaign could and should have done to make him win or else what is the random/luck factor that cost him the win. Thanks.

 

Romney needed to flip four states to have a chance. It's liek saying the Rockets almost won, when they lost each period by merely 3 or 4 points, and ended up losing by 14.

 

That's a great example, Sam. Pretty much sums it up.

 

This is just more fodder for the Obama didn't get a mandate crowd.

 

Romney lost Ohio almost 4 years ago by the way
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/11/mitt-romney-auto-bailout-_n_2114242.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

DETROIT — Only a couple of weeks after Barack Obama won the presidency in 2008, the man who would become his Republican challenger in the next election penned a New York Times column with a fateful headline: "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt."

Those four words would haunt Mitt Romney across the Rust Belt, where auto manufacturing remains an economic pillar – especially in Ohio, a state that every successful GOP presidential nominee has carried, and in his home state of Michigan, where his father was an auto executive and governor.

Romney's opposition to the federal rescue of General Motors and Chrysler didn't necessarily seal his fate in those two crucial states. But no other issue hung in the background for so long. And nothing that Romney tried – his many visits, the millions spent on ads, his efforts to explain and refine his position – could overcome it.

Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks found that about 60 percent of voters in both states supported the government's loan and industry restructuring program, and three-quarters of them backed Obama.

But by then, the argument was a moot point for most Ohio voters. Nearly seven in 10 had made up their minds before September, the exit polls showed.

 

It isn't that Romney came close to winning, its that Obama came close to losing. He should have defeated Romney with the same numbers as McCain. In case you have forgotten, McCain beat out Romney in 08.

 

Wow, you live in a very simple world where nothing matters except transitive property victory margins?

McCain > Romney
Obama > McCain
thus
Obama > Romney

Brilliant analysis there. Why did we even bother having an election?

 

This makes no sense at all.

If you honestly believe the spin you just posted, you're worse off than GOP idiots who thought they had this one in the bag. I hope your self-delusion feels good.

 

That may be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. You can't be serious???? Surely you don't actually believe that?? I truly feel sorry for you if you believe BS like that.

 

how does the % of difference in EVs compare for the last 2 elections?

 

Please. Just Stop. You are embarrassing yourself.