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FIZER....could he be a key in the rumored Drew trade deal.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by houmedman25, Sep 14, 2000.

  1. jaworski2000

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    How about Drew for any big man the Chicago can give away like Simpkins, Anstey. Hell I'll get anyone for Drew istead of 2nd rd picks would you?

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    Simpkins was released by the Bulls already

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  3. gettinbranded

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    Oh for crying out loud...


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  4. verse

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    A. do not, under any circumstances, give the lakers the final piece to the puzzle.

    B. why in the HELL did chicago draft a player who was a stud pf, then decide to make him either switch positions or be a 6th man? since when do you draft in the top 5 for a bench player? i'm sorry but krause is stupid. stupid. stupid.
     
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    What, do you expect his signature to be "Francis was lucky to be tied with Brand for Rookie of the Year."?

    As for these thoughts of Fizer, it'd be great. A forward tandem of MoTay/Fizer would be lethal, but for Drew, it won't happen.

    However, I don't think Fizer is locked in as a Bull. Brand should get close 40 minutes a game. Rice should get about 35 minutes, as should Mercer. Artest gets the majority of extra SG/SF minutes, and what he doesn't get should go to Benjamin (there aren' that many extra.) I don't see much time for Fizer. If your argument is Brand will play some center, Tarlac/Miller should combine for 40+ minutes a game at least. Technically, I'd see an arguments more minutes for Drew as a Bull than Fizer.

    It could be possible that Fizer to Houston could fall into place, maybe in some 3 way type of deal, with KT and/or Walt and/or Rogers going elsewhere, netting the Bulls someone they'd prefer to the Rocket player (ie:younger), or Krause getting into one of those "Drew at all costs!" modes, with the Lakers or a competitor of Krumbs (a la MJ?) making a push for Bryce. But I don't think it'll happen.

    My best guess is draft pick(s), nothing (trade exception?), or Hersey Hawkins (cap purposes).


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  6. Achebe

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    I'm excited to see Drew get a fair shake, considering his success when he had the minutes in Houston.

    He's not going to be an Andre Miller, but he'll be pretty damn adequate. Hell, he was totally groomed for what the Bulls need now anyway, a pg that can 'dit'.

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  7. gettinbranded

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    I don't think you can measure a GM's I.Q. before you see the players get on the court and perform. Plenty of players change position once they reach the NBA--Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson, Larry Bird, Antwan Jamison-------all PF's (I think Larry even played some center) in college and transitioned to SF in the NBA. It's not out of of the realm of possibility for Fizer either, as he has a nice jump shot and some moves to the hole.

    Pip and Grant only played part-time behind veterans their first season in the league---20 minutes per game. They don't seem worse off for it and neither will Fizer. He'll need time to make the transition and Rice's presence will give him that.


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    No...but I agree with your statement... [​IMG]


    Fizer will log heavy minutes---they want him to move to the SF position next season when Rice leaves. Ronnie will back-up Mercer unless he outplays him in training camp. The Bulls see Ronnie as a sub, and Fizer as a potential starter. The minutes of each will show that.

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    That last part struck me: "when Rice leaves".

    Just a couple of questions:

    First, are you afraid that Chicago won't want to or won't be able to hang on to him at the end of the season?

    If it's the former (i.e. not wanting to), then why bother signing him in the first place? He could easily make the difference between you guys getting a low pick in the lottery vs. a high pick (possibly #1 or 2) you'd probably get without him. He was once a franchise player and probably could still be an explosive scorer in the right setting.

    If it's the latter (i.e. not being able to), then man your future looks bleak. This isn't meant to be an offensive statement, but if you can't get free agents to stay with you, then chances are your rookies will leave after their tenure is up. If this is indeed the case, you guys need to fire your GM and higher a more renowned coach to attract people to play for you.


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    I was speaking of an optimal condition...that Fizer turns out this year like Brand (and Francis) did last year. If thats the case, I'd be in favor of promoting
    him to the starting role, letting Rice go, and spending the money on building depth into the team through talented, but relatively cheap FA's like Mercer.

    The Bulls HAVE said that if it turns out well, they *will* want to keep him (rice). The problem is that Rice is at the end of his career, and may want to go somewhere he can *immediately* contend. If thats the case, it's not Krauses fault. If he doesn't want to stay because of Krause, and no one else wants to come because of Krause, then yeah, it'll be time for a GM switch. You better believe Krause knows it too---he and the organization will be on their P's and Q's over the course of the next year.

    As far as the lottery goes---we can't spend another season like we did the last two. it's not worth it for a draft pick that consists of random ping pong balls. Elton played like a tiger last season, but going into every game knowing you had very little chance to win almost cracked him. The organization wants to get back on a winning track for that reason, and probably also so that they can give the finger to all the organizations that predicted 5+ seasons of sub 20 wins for the Bulls.

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