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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. mc mark

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    Today is Obama’s birthday!

    I think I’ll send him another $100.

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR FUTURE PRESIDENT!
     
  2. Major

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    I disagree - I think that's exactly what the McCain camp wants - get Obama down to the gutter, and drain the enthusiam out of the race.

    I think he should actually take the opposite approach. When asked "what do you think about the latest ad?", just respond with: "It's childish. I'm interested in a real campaign about the issues. Until he wants to discuss that, nothing he does is worth talking about." And keep repeating that over and over every time the media brings up the nonsense topics. And have all your surrogates do it.

    Instead of playing McCain's game, show it for what it is and try to force McCain back on your turf. Turn the media message from "check out this McCain ad" to "Obama refuses to talk about McCain nonsense". In a battle of issues, Obama walks away with it - the public favors Dems on basically every issue position right now.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you see how quickly they jumped on the "race card" issue. they're more adament about that then obama's position on the surge
     
  4. count_dough-ku

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    A lot can happen in 3 months. But it's not looking good for him at the moment. The biggest surprise for the Obama campaign and the media(since they're essentially part of his campaign at this point) is that his overseas trip did nothing for him.

    And I think people need to calm down about the negative ads. Obama's slide in the polls started before those ads were airing. There are other factors at play here including Obama fatigue, backlash against the slanted coverage(even the media members themselves are starting to admit this), Obama's unpopular positions on key issues like drilling(which is why he reversed himself this weekend), and frankly some of absurd things he's going around saying like inflating your tires would equal the oil we can get offshore.

    And one other factor people have to consider. The Bradley effect. A tied race or one within the margin of error is the last thing Obama wants because if even 5% of the people who say they're voting for him are lying to pollsters, he's screwed.
     
  5. mc mark

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    It's a sad day in America indeed when one party is counting on racism to win an election.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    Good post.

    To add to that, Obama needs a 10-12 point General Election lead in order to withstand the onslaught that is coming his way after the convention. This is some heavy stuff, folks. If the Obama fad isn't over now, then it will be very soon.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    delusion, mccain was the candidate a good four months before obama and you guys think these numbers are good for mccain. mccain had a four month jump on obama and he is in reactionary mode.
     
  8. mc mark

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    Where's our Bimbo Eruptions!!?!?!
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    If only McCain had actually been talking about issues they might have had something to do with it. But he wasn't.
     
  10. deepblue

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    Heh, I still remember people claiming Obama didn't wrap up the nomination early was a very GOOD thing for him since it kept him in the media coverage while McCain was in the distant background. So now McCain has an advantage because the 4 month of near ZERO coverage?
     
  11. leroy

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    You keep saying that there's this huge thing that's going to come out after the convention. If it was that big, don't you think the Obama camp is ready for it? With the primary campaign that he already went through, don't you think this bit of information would have hit if it was so enormous? What makes you seriously think that the GOP is the only ones with this information?
     
  12. Major

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    It's his way of pretending to be relevant despite not having any legitimate arguments to make on the issues. If you argue with him on this, he can just say "just wait".
     
  13. basso

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    i know, which is why i've been so disappointed Obama has stooped so low.
     
  14. pgabriel

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    he had an advantage because his party knew who their candidate was and he could focus on building his general election strategy which he seems to have not done.

    your post makes no sense, obama had to share spotlight with hilary, how could he have more coverage then than now :confused: secondly, obama went through jeremiah, bitter, etc. while mccain basically had no negative coverage the entire, except only to screw up things like his iraq trip when he had joe lieberman whispering corrections about sunni/shia in his ear.

    mccain's camp has no direction, instead of trying to compare obama to paris and britney he should have focused on the fact that july was the lowest casulty month in iraq since the war started. you'd think his campaign would focus on iraq but he can't even turn the surge in his favor.

    NO DIRECTION
     
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    Obama has to go negative and fast. He cannot afford to be a long list of Dems looking weak while pleeding: "please can't we all be honorable in our campaigns.

    It is certainly very easy to tie McCain to Bush and to show him flip-flopping.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    Let me ask you a question -- Why has Barry Soetoro not released his medical records?
     
  18. BigBenito

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    Who the frick is Barry Soetoro?
     
  19. basso

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    Chauncy Gardner > Barry Soetoro
     
  20. deepblue

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    Hey, its wasn't me that proclaimed its better for Obama to have lots of media coverage rather than no coverage like McCain. I just find it funny anything can be spined as positive for Obama, polls up, polls down, more coverage, less coverage.

    If McCain is running such a terrible campaign (which I think he is), what does that say about Obama's chances if the poll numbers are even.
     

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