First they came for the Jews, then the Garlic Noses

He said "resort to."

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but disagreement with gay lifestyle has been replaced by the word "homophobic" in the American dictionary, right?

 

What is the gay lifestyle?

 

these "gay" debates are so stale. let me sum it up for you:
the more you need to define and/or condemn homosexuality, the "gayer" you are.

 

these threads from basso's shame at the fact that he supports a constitutional amendment against gay marriage.

 

So let me get this straight...

The candidate that the libs are embracing as a post-racial healer, a uniter, and someone who transcends partisan conflict of any kind ....

1) Closely associates with Jew haters
2) Closely associates with (as Batman would call it) '***-haters'
3) Closely associates with racists
4) Closely associates with advisors who hate American, blame America for 9-11, and equate America to al Qaeda

Can you not see that Obama's entire message is a fraud? It's a politically crafted message that has no basis in historical precedent judging by Obama's actions. Those closest to him and those that advise him embody the exact opposite of the values that Obama is claiming that he has. He is a fraud.

 

The assumption that homosexuality:

- Is something you're born with
- Is not a choice you make
- should be accepted by everyone the way homosexuals see it

 

It's good to see what you really think of Americans who voluntarily serve in the US military by calling them dogs. I also like the sudden switch from the "speeches don't matter" argument to picking words over actions.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-oped0404wrightapr03,0,92000.story


Factor military duty into criticism

By Lawrence Korb

In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President John F. Kennedy's challenge to, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," gave up his student deferment, left college in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines.

In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)

The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to the Navy's premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital, as a member of the commander in chief's medical team, and helped care for President Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery. For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House awarded him three letters of commendation.

What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy not many years after the two branches began to become integrated.

While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President Dick Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/sailor, received five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and one for being a prospective father. Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay in college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family connections.

Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something or those who merely talk about their love of the country?

After leaving the service of his country, the young African-American finished his final year of college, entered the seminary, was ordained as a minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of America's biggest cities.

This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retiring pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, who has been in the news for comments he made over the last three decades.

Since these comments became public we have heard criticisms, condemnations, denouncements and rejections of his comments and him.

We've seen on television, in a seemingly endless loop, sound bites of a select few of Rev. Wright's many sermons.

Some of the Wright's comments are inexcusable and inappropriate and should be condemned, but in calling him "unpatriotic," let us not forget that this is a man who gave up six of the most productive years of his life to serve his country.

How many of Wright's detractors, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly to name but a few (cc.net note: let's add bigtexxx, T_J, and basso to the list), volunteered for service, and did so under the often tumultuous circumstances of a newly integrated armed forces and a society in the midst of a civil rights struggle? Not many.

While words do count, so do actions.

Let us not forget that, for whatever Rev. Wright may have said over the last 30 years, he has demonstrated his patriotism.

Lawrence Korb and Ian Moss are, respectively, Navy and Marine Corps veterans. They work at The Center For American Progress. Korb served as assistant secretary of Defense in the Reagan administration.

 

I think bigtexxx and TJ's support of the troop has always shown itself to only be when convenient for them to try and make a political appointment.

There are just countless episodes of them not supporting troops, vets, and military leaders when it seemed to go against their political line of the day.

 

in the neocons world, actual service doesn't matter, cheaney and rumsfeld and bush are real patriots because they wear lapels on their sports coats.

 

Everybody wearing a sports coat wears lapels. I think you meant pins on the lapels.

Also, please cease and desist equating bigtexxx, basso, and T_J with all neoconservatives. That simply isn't the case. There are quite a few neoconservatives who do not agree with our current administration.

 

I thought the Fukuyama wing was closed...

 

Having served doesn't give you the right to fabricate fake stories (e.g. AIDS) to incite hatred. I am fine with some of the factual anti-American rants Wright made but preaching fake stories to churchgoers certainly cross the line.