First they came for the Jews, then the Garlic Noses

I QUOTE YOU:

...so it looks like you left an option out of your little list:
3. You agree with the message being preached EXCEPT for one or two little parts, but you find enough value in the rest to keep going.

Ding ding ding!

 

Yeah I mean those black panther meetings sure do have good refreshments. Who cares about the racist speech I just go for the hamburgers.

 

One or two little parts like the government created aids to kill black people, introduced drugs in order to imprison black people, etc. Those aren't 1 or 2 little parts.

 

Yeah I mean those Catholic masses sure do have good refreshments. Who cares about the homophobic speeches I just go for the hamburgers.


...point being that the Catholic Church as a whole preaches hatred of homosexual acts. Does that mean every Catholic is homophobic? Hmmm...

 

black panthers, dude between them an malcolm x we welcome you to the year 2000.

 

Oh yes. Yes they are.

McCain's spiritual adviser says America exists to destroy Islam... however, I'm sure the guy has a fair number of good things to say outside of his ludicrous xenophobic hatred of Muslims. I very much doubt that's the reason McCain associated himself with that guy.

It's no different with Obama.



By the way, where's your accusation that I "support McCain"? After all, I defended McCain against idiotic claims of guilt by association... could it possibly be that I'm against guilt by association and hyperbole from BOTH sides?

 

I would say it certainly means every Catholic has views that gay people are sinners.

 

History does not happen in a vacuum.

 

yes but the catholic church is still relevant. and you're right history is not in a vacum so lets exam why a group like the black panthers formed in the sixties might have been a response to?

 

In theory, not in reality.

If you don't know a single person who considers themselves Catholic but disagrees with that particular viewpoint on homosexuality, I have to ask... are you living under a rock?

 

Well you have changed from Catholic to "considers themselves Catholic" and from homophobic to "viewpoint on homosexuality" so did I just win the internet?

 

Just wanted to add that a person who thinks God is "cool" with a person having homosexual sex than they are not a Catholic.

 

Oh gee, so sorry.

If you don't know a single Catholic who disagrees with the viewpoint that gay people are sinners, I have to ask... are you living under a rock?

Happy? I still stand by it.

BTW, since you're apparently such the expert on Catholicism, FYI last time I checked BEING homosexual was not a sin, homosexual ACTS were.

Wait wait! First you said: "gay people are sinners." THEN you say "a person who thinks God is "cool" with a person having homosexual sex (is) not a Catholic." Gay sex and being gay: not the same thing!

See? I can play pointless word games too.


But congratulations on not managing to divert my attention from the original point: Obama's going to Meeks' services does not automatically mean he himself is homophobic, or that he's somehow obligated to believe everything Meeks says.

 

How is a person gay if they don't have gay sex?

 

If it's what they WANT to do naturally.

I'm not making this stuff up. The Church did. Blame them.



EDIT: And, by the same logic, how do you know someone's straight if they've never had straight sex?

 

I don't call a guy that WANTS to have sex with dead people but never does a necrophiliac.

 

realy? Cause I know a lot of gay catholics. In fact, one married my wife and me.

 

I know I have, but I have never run for President as a Democrat associating myself with a preacher who is aligned with Focus on the Family (the one operated by James Dobson).

 

when did you move to utah

 

Metrosexual?