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Who is Naomi Campbell's husband? Do we hear about Michelle without BHO?

When I first said not a role model I did not take race into as much of a consideration as you are. I don't see how being black made it harder for her to get and education. But if that is why our opinions differ than I am glad we found it out. Also to say my race is why my opinion is the way it is reeks of weaksauce.

 

Role model and celebrity aren't the same thing.

How or why you heard about her is irrelevant. It's what the person did that matters.

If someone risks their live to save someone, are they are a role model because they did it, or because the media covered it? If the media didn't cover it, would that make that person not a role model for the people that heard about it?

 

You are confusing role model with hero I think

 

You believe one needs to be a celebrity to be a role model?

 

Look, Obama is a mannequin who serves as the sympathetic vehicle through which the far left is currently advancing their social and political agenda. No accomplishments in life, no leadership, no resume, no nothing.

To think that his WIFE is somehow this powerful, strong woman who people ought to listen to is the height of absurdity. Have you heard her speak? It's a joke. Be honest people. Listen, congrats on getting into Ivy League schools. Yay. Plenty of dumb people do it -- particularly given the 'needs' of the student body, as determined by the liberal admissions officers at these east coast institutions... Congrats on getting a job at a law firm. Same issues come into play as to merit. In reading her senior thesis in which she tackles the issue of race (predictable), I was not convinced of her intelligence. In listening to her speeches, I'm no where near convinced. Shoot, they had to hide her for a long time after she said she wasn't proud of her country, and then again when she said she'd have to think hard about voting for Hillary if she won the primary. Obama himself had to take up her defense after the 'whitey tape' outrage (assist to the media for shielding that one...). She's a disaster waiting to happen, and now confined to photo opp's and supermarket magazine interviews.

 

^^^That, my friends, is the definition of a troll.

 

uhhh, my first double post

 

I'll address race, because Major hit it on the head about the husband thing.

I brought up race because it IS important. A minority is not going to identify with Hillary Clinton like she can with Michelle Obama. I am a hispanic female that grew up going to HISD schools with other poor minorities.

Being a male or white (my assumption) you have a plethora of role models to choose from, that we hear about from our first step into a classroom. A young black female has who? Harriet Tubman? (And I assure you, history was my favorite subject and she was the only one that was given more than one sentence in history books/lectures.) Yes, Ms. Tubman was a phenomenal woman, but those were completely different times. Michelle Obama is a living, very visible example to a young, disadvantaged girl that if you work hard enough, you actually do have a chance to get the best education in the nation without the financial means to do so. Regardless of what she has done with it, she was given the opportunity to get it. Can you not see things from a different perspective?

 

exactly, its not even worth getting into. you could search his posts his entire time on the site, they're all the same. black people at ivy league schools don't deserve to be therE. never mind he has no problem with a guy who was president WHO WE KNOW WASN'T THERE HIS OWN MERIT. at least we have proof both Obamas accomplished stuff. and where did that John McCain graduate from the Naval Academy, third from last? oh he got into his school because of daddy also

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This is ridiculous, particularly given the fact that Hillary has done 10x the amount of work for the minority community than has Michelle. What the Obama campaign did to Hillary in the primaries was borderline criminal. Hillary had devoted her entire life to minorities, yet somehow the Obama campaign was able to brand her and Bill as anti-minority....all because she was not a minority, apparently(?)...

 

like what

 

Coretta Scott King, Barbara Jordan, Condaleeza Rice and Oprah Winfrey to name a prominent few. Granted, there are many, many more white males throughout history, but there are more black/minority females than Harriet Tubman.

 

incorrect. Congrats on making generalities about race based on actions and beliefs though. I didn't even address race yet because I disagree with you, I am put into a race from your preconcieved notions.

 

In response to the troll: Comprehension skills, FTL. At the risk of being virtually slapped, let me explain.

I didn't say a minority female wouldn't identify at all with Hillary Clinton. I didn't say Michelle Obama has done more for the minority community than Hillary Clinton. Got it?

Those are all wonderful examples. I was speaking from my time in school. Barbara Jordan and Condi were the only ones discussed...in high school, and at that, in my Government class. My point is that Michelle Obama is a modern, very visible role model that other female minorities can look up to and identify with, not that she is the ONLY one.

How about responding to the rest of my post? Your race, gender, and social class aside, can you not see how Michelle Obama is a role model for people that have similar backgrounds?

 

If you can tell me how she was disadvantaged that would be nice. She grew up with 2 parents, her mother staying home, she went to the best middle school and high school. If only we all had it that rough.

 

Neither parent went to college. Dad had MS and worked a blue-collar job. Black family in the 1960's/70's. Most young people in that situation do not go on to the success she had. It's one of the many problems with urban minority America. She only went to the best schools because she earned her way into them - that was part of the success.

 

Her dad made enough to allow her mom to stay at home. Blue collar or not, that is huge.

Parents were active in the community and obviously emphasized education and reading.

If you are saying she was black therefore that trumps all of the postives she had over the majority of other people, then we just disagree.

 

I think we just disagree about her background.

 

you're neither white nor male? this is cool. I really did peg you for a guy (not the Savage sense of "peg," fwiw.)

 

I think it is pretty obvious I am male but none of my arguments depend on my or anyones race or sex.