First lady setting a fashion trend amid a recession

you're clearly not following the conservation as usual.

that's not the job given up

 

I am not denying the realities of life or saying she is less of a person because she took a 300K job after he was a senator, I am saying that a woman with that education dumping it to do PR and then nothing is not what I would consider a role model for the modern woman.

 

yeah, a woman taking a $300,000 job so her husband can be a senator and eventually run for president is such a bad example.

your logic is ridiculous.

 

your facts are confused.

she took the job as a result, not for his benefit. I doubt her working there helped his campaign much.

 

it ain't bad job for a "modern woman", I never said she was helping by doing the actual job

answer the question about what hillary went through while her husband was president.

 

The grace with which Michelle handled herself through the stupidity of the right wing attacks, especially given her counterpart, make her a role model for anybody

 

WTF did you mean by this then?

Again I am not saying she has it rough, or did anything "wrong" I just do not see why she is a role model.

You can check out Hillary on Wiki, there are hundreds of things she did over the decades (that actually used her education) while still supporting her husband.

 

what do I mean by what

she's an ivy league graduate lawyer who once was a lecturer at university of chicago, worked a prestiguous law firm, and because she quit one job you say she's not a role model.

that's stupid, especially if by what you say, she quit her job so her husband could run for president, oh btw, that appears to have been the right decision.

what about sticking by her husband when everyone knows he's a cheater? answer the question

 

You didn't see the part I quoted where you said she took the SO he could do that. This game of you not reading what I write and getting the facts wrong is getting old.

After she quit the law firm she basically did PR. I didn't see anywhere she was a lecturer, she was administrative. Plus even if she was for a semester that is like the lowest of the low. It is a TA who graduated. Non-tenure track.

Her education is meaningless. She hasn't used it since early 90's at the latest.

Answer the question of "what about sticking by her husband when everyone knows he's a cheater?" Ok, first off crappy question. Secondly, I don't see how that is her fault.

 

let's just go back to post 77. you say she's not a role model because she quit her job to support her husband. That's completely and utterly ridiculous considering who her husband is.

I'm not going back repeating why.

you're right, she wasn't a lecturer. However, if you think a person who works for any major organization in community affairs isn't doing anything, you need to look up some people who've done the job.

yeah, a black woman from a working class background life in the seventies getting a harvard law degree is meaningless.

sticking by, not leaving? do you think women staying with their husbands when the entire world knows he's a cheater is particularly role modelish. btw, I asked what do you mean by what I mean because you quote more than that.

 

Princeton University, where she graduated c*m laude with a Bachelor of Arts in 1985

She obtained her Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from Harvard Law School in 1988

Just get some facts correct man.

Go read hillary's resume and what she did with a 6 figure education then compare it to being in public relations 3 years after graduation.

 

This thread is hilarious.

Michelle Obama is the top advocate and (probably) top advisor to the most powerful -- not to mention most popular -- person in the world. She is also his number one asset.

To say she abandoned her career is plain stupid. She makes better use of her education-- and makes more of a difference in the world -- in a day than anyone here does in a lifetime.

 

Really? How does a J.D. help for fund raising? What helps fund raising is being married to BHO.

 

i'm saying she grew up in the seventies, man

what did she do when everyone knew her husband was cheater. stuck by him? something you're criticizing michelle for seems to be.

 

the fact that you refuse to address what hillary put up with the entire time in the national spotlight shows I've won this argument

 

The fact that the right has been reduced to championing the Clintons in order to bash the Obamas is even funnier than the fact that they've been reduced to complaining about shoes.

The GOP sucks almost as bad as a minority party as it did as a majority one.

 

lastly, I really don't give a crap what hillary did or didn't do, the fact that you say michelle isn't a role model becuase she didn't become a high powered lawyer is completely and utterly ridiculous. especially if she didn't because she deferred to her husband's career..

as a matter of fact you would have a better argument if you would have left the second part off

 

If you are saying Michelle is a better role model for personal life because she picked a husband who has not been publicly exposed as a cheater, then I agree.

I am saying her career is based on little with her own merit and education and more with networking and public appearances. If I have a daughter I would much rather her think her career is also important. HillDog moved from Wash to Arkansas to support her husband but still has a seriously impressive resume.

 

Explain how that makes her less of a role model. Seriously, it was not her fault. I didn't know anyone wins when arguing on the internet, but your arguments have been so full of factual errors and inability to articulate your questions that half the time you were treading water.

 

Ofcourse you don't because when compared hillary makes Michelle's resume look like Palin's.