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First Allstar Ballot Results Released

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. Knickskiller

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    LOL bro , you expect women to be 'ladylike' ? It's a a bygone era were white folks had slaves and women couldn't vote.
     
  2. SuperStar

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    I don't think it has anything to do with confidence. More like it would just add more pressure to Lin when he already have plenty of pressure to deal with. Unnecessary pressure caused by his fans.
     
  3. cytrynowa

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    I'm a woman, you idiot.
     
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  4. Hrock

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Lin turned it down if he won a spot. He's such a humble guy and is his own biggest critic. If he took it, it would be cringe worthy to watch him step on court for the all star game...lol. I think in a couple years if he works at it he can be an all-star one day, but not in his first season after injury meshing with a team that got the superstar 3 days before the season started...lol
     
  5. split41

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    Obviously you are set in your opinion and I would be foolish to try and convince you otherwise, I'd just like to point out a few of my points you either misunderstood or misconstrued.

    "All of what you said in your second paragraph is last year & old news. People aren't as interested in him this year." I think that is because he isn't being shoved in everyone's faces as much anymore and getting the same exposure as a prime MJ. Either way, my point was that having Lin in the All Star game will give him a lot of exposure and something similar may happen (players trying to destroy him) ala last year - he will be despised by other players and general fans.

    "And if him getting selected damages his confidence then I am sorry he is p*ssy." I think if most players in the association despise you, your confidence will drop. I think you are missing the wider repercussions of what this will do in terms of his reputation with the fans and players around the league. So, I'd hardly call him a p***y if his confidence drops.
    Also, isn't this is slightly hypocritical of you to say this? When his confidence issues where largely blamed on the coaching why wasn't Lin called a "p***y" then? (but this is just throwaway rhetoric, please don't focus on this statement - just a passing thought)

    You're entitled to your opinion and I am to mine, I think a lot of the hardcore Lin fans are missing the bigger picture and wider repercussions is all, and I don't think this will do any good for him.

    "he will be in the skills competition & frankly I think he would be a perfect fit there" I definitely agree with this. I think this would be much better suited for him, as Lin fans get to see Lin and he doesn't have the burden of being an unwarranted All-Star.
     
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  7. Aruba77

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    All you "fans" who proclaim to support and care about Lin should keep one thin in mind:

    The dude doesn't like the spot light. He wants to work hard and earn respect through his play. He doesn't want the hype. By propping him up to be the second coming of Pistol Pete you are making his job more difficult.

    One thing I respect about Lin is his work ethic, humbleness, and respect for the game. He knows he's not an allstar yet. One day he may truly deserve to be. Why do you want to steal his hard earned satisfaction by conferring some fraudulent honor on him and put a bigger target on his back.

    If you truly want to support Lin you won't put him in that position. Clutch is dead on.
     
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    This. I would rep you if I could. Thanks for your post.
     
  9. SuperStar

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    lol yeah I don't think Lin wants to be an all star this way.


    Asked in a phone interview Tuesday night whether he still believes he will become an All-Star, Lin told ESPNNewYork.com, "At some point, for sure. Right now I have a ways to go, but at some point, yes. I try to get better every year, and if I do that and work on the things that are problems for me right now, I definitely think I'll have that chance." On Friday night in Houston, Lin will have a chance to shake off his early-season struggles.
     
  10. roxxy

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    LOL Your entire statement is based on the fact that he will be "despised" by fans or other players for being a "unwarranted" all star. This is silly. A lot of these NBA guys are very close with one another. The NBA is a fraternity in so many ways. Even during Linsanity I don't think anybody despised him for the media attention. I think a few people were envious & didn't understand it but I don't think anybody hated him. Everybody thinks Melo hates Lin & Lin hates Melo but they are actually friendly with one another from what I heard.

    The vast majority of NBA guys had nothing but respect for him. How many times did I here players say Lin had an opportunity & he was prepared & he took it & remained humble I have nothing but respect for him. Take for example the admiral crazy Spurs fan, great player loves Lin. Another example, Rondo (who the media falsely reported that he said he was going to destroy Lin so many fans ate this up & still do even though it was misreported) has known him since college. I think there is a lot of sensationalism going on right now & fans are getting drawn into it way to much. Say this out loud to yourself. Player X " Ugh Lin was in the all star games he doesn't deserve to be there I hate him for this f*uck him I am going to destroy him when next we play Houston". Does that not sound absurd to you? I am seriously dying of laughter as I type this.

    And if fans truly despise Lin if he is in the games, then they likely despised him before. If you hate somebody because you feel he doesn't "deserve" to be in the games then you were likely never much of a fan from the beginning. And really who cares what the fans think LOL fans know nothing (myself included). :p And my point still stands if he looses confidence because fans hate him then he is a p***y.

    And sure Lin is an unwarranted all star if you believe that the games are merit based. He isn't a top 10 PG. But if you are of the opinion that they are a popularity contest, seeing as how jeremy is as popular as ***** he definitely should be there.

    Just a few thoughts.
     
  11. Grigori

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    Can we please? While they are at it, they may as well also drop the charade that WWE is anything but staged.

    As you damn well should feel sorry for these people. I suggest not hitting them with everything at once, save news that there is no Santa Claus for next year.
     
  12. split41

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    Wow, I've pretty respectful to you, even despite your obvious lin-fanboyism and blind devotion to him, but you don't seem to want to participate in a mannered conversation. If we're going to call each other out here and laugh at each other's arguments, well I feel like I should be the one laughing. Your argument is filled with hypocrisy and you're so obstinate, lol, like you won't even budge an inch in your argument. In your world everyone will still love Lin despite the fact he doesn't deserve to be an all-star and everyone assumes he's only getting votes because he's asian.

    Lol, "this is silly" says who? You? Well you attack my baseless argument by providing your own baseless argument, the NBA is like a fraternity, oh I didn't know you played in the NBA? Oh, maybe you just know somebody in the NBA, no? Oh, you're just a fan...gotcha. These people are human, if you've ever been involved in a competitive profession, you'll know that jealousy and envy are rampant, and those that want to get ahead won't explicitly call someone out. Now is this happening with Lin, I don't know, but is it more likely people will be jealous and envious if he becomes an all-star when they've played better than him? Probably.

    "If you hate somebody because you feel he doesn't "deserve" to be in the games then you were likely never much of a fan from the beginning." Not everyone who watches basketball is a jeremy Lin fan, many are neutral or like his story or whatever, how are they wrong for not liking someone who keeps getting unwarranted accolades. It's not Lin's fault, but his fans do him a disservice by overhyping him, as many feel it is their duty to restore order.

    " Ugh Lin was in the all star games he doesn't deserve to be there I hate him for this f*uck him I am going to destroy him when next we play Houston" This is ridiculous hyperbole. I can make similar hyperbolic statements to elucidate my points. You don't think Lin making the all-star game will give the wrong message to players who've been having breakout seasons?

    If you think there won't be backlash, I just need to point to Linsanity and the immediate backlash from that.

    Also, "who cares what the fans think?" This guy is a human being, if people spammed your twitter with "you suck" and every article you read said you were overhyped, overrated and only an all-star because you were asian, you don't think that'd get to a person. These people aren't machines.

    The NBA all-star game is based on popularity, but it is also based on merit. The people who have been all-stars when maybe that year they didn't deserve it, still had a legacy and many seasons of great play to justify their spot. Lin doesn't have that, I think this is evident by some still saying Linsanity was a fluke. Furthermore, if you think the majority view the all-star game as a popularity contest then you're delusional. There is a reason it is used when inducting HOF players. It's called All Stars for a reason - All STARS, is Lin a star in this league? No. He's popular, but he not a star, not a top 10 pg in the league, and has played "terribly" this season according to him.

    I don't want this to turn into some mud-flinging argument, I respect your views, but I do not agree. Like I said before you obviously won't change your views, and I won't try to convince you otherwise. Please, though, if you want to argue with me, be courteous about it.

    I really like Lin, but he does not deserve to be an All-Star.

    Overall argument summary - Lin doesn't deserve to be an All Star and the majority agrees, look at any poll taken on the subject, and he's going to get a lot of backlash if he is a starter. What is so complicated about that? I mean, please be reasonable.
     
  13. roxxy

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    Sigh. Nobody was being disrespectful if my tone implies disrespect or incivility then that is a mistake on your part. Don't understand where my post came off as ill mannered. But anyway this was a lively conversation, I am out. Thanks for the chat.
     
  14. SuperStar

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    lol Roxxy,

    Melo called Lin's contract ridiculous, J.R Smith was talking crap about Lin on his twitter, and of course the Knicks wanted to embarrassed Lin even though they say they didn't. I don't think the NBA is all sunshine and rainbows like you're painting it to be. The players most likely won't say anything bad about Lin to the media but I'm sure there would be some jealousy.
     
  15. cytrynowa

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    What did JR say?
     
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    Let's end this bickering because in the end it won't matter. To appease all those who don't want Lin in the AS game, why don't you write to the league and petition to get rid of voting altogether. Let the league just go down the stat sheet and just hand pick in that order from best to worst until the roster spots are filled. This way all the "deserving" player can get in 100% without fail. What a joke.
     
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    JR spoke about how some players in the locker room would be envious of Lin's contract and how that may cause resentment. He said it in a sport illustrated interview.
     
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    I actually think Lin would vacate the spot, especially if it came at the cost of James Harden.
     
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  20. roxxy

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    Sigh read my entire post please where was I painting the NBA like it was all sunshine & rainbows? I did fully say that there was some envy. See below.

     

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