1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Fired Culley

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DaDakota, Dec 5, 2021.

  1. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
    Every pick looks like a big league player in some capacity.
    Mills floor is back up and ceiling is a good starter.
    Collins looks like he can be a legit starter and big body
    Jordan looks like a playmaker
    Wallow is a great athlete and made a ton of plays when inserted
    Lopez was one of the best run stuffing rookie DT in the league at one point and was a regular on the line.

    It’s been a while since mid round picks have panned out for Texans. That class was a win.
     
  2. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    LOL.

    Sounds like a superfan to me, hoping that these mediocre guys pan out.

    In essence you are saying he really did nothing of note, I am just best case scenario with his picks.

    I wonder who else actually agrees with how you view this draft.
     
    mario_v likes this.
  3. primtim24

    primtim24 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,911
    Likes Received:
    813
    I'm not going to keep arguing with you about every aspect of my original point. If you don't think we're in a different situation than we were last season then that's on you, and there's not really much else to discuss.
     
    #663 primtim24, Jan 18, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2022
    cbass likes this.
  4. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    So you really got nothing, just super fandom.

    Cool, you be you.
     
  5. Htown Legend

    Htown Legend Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,418
    Likes Received:
    4,389
    I agree with his assessment of the draft, in fact- I made a very similar post a couple of weeks back.

    Caserio had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that his first draft pick was in the 3rd round in 2021. It’s still too early to say whether Mills’ will be a long term starter in this league… but it would be pretty naive to ignore the progress he made and to ignore the fact that he at a minimum, showed promise.

    As a Texan fan, thinking back to the Rick Smith days, there were many 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks that were absolute MISSES.

    I think when you consider the lack of draft capital last year and the fact that every single player that was drafted at least got on the field and made plays, I’d deem that as a successful draft- considering the hand Caserio was dealt.

    Assuming a Deshaun trade- this next draft will tell us a lot more about Caserio, however.
     
  6. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
    Huh?
    Your post says you didn’t watch any part of a game and parroting every negative opinion you hear.
    How original
     
    raining threes, cbass and primtim24 like this.
  7. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,704
    Likes Received:
    8,364
    I was responding to someone that said Esterby probably wore a headset too.

    I don't know what Easterby does and neither do you

    The firing of Culley and the hiring if who they really wanted from the beginning happens in the corporate world all of the time. I would've thought you knew this, I guess not.

    Back at you, you sure seem to be full of yourself this evening. Good night.
     
  8. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,704
    Likes Received:
    8,364
    I would say finding a starting QB at 67 and a starting wr are a little more than doing nothing.

    I guess you're stillll bitter about Kubiak getting fired.
     
    #668 raining threes, Jan 19, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2022
    cmoak1982 likes this.
  9. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,704
    Likes Received:
    8,364
    Finding a starting level QB that played better than every QB in his draft class over the last month of the season.

    Finding guys like Collins and Lopez, guys that are fringe starters or at worst great depth players later in the draft. Same goes for Wallow and Jordan. Great depth guys,ST's guys.

    The fact that he did all of this without 1st,2nd Rd picks gives me hope that he will do really well with 4 picks in the top 80 in the upcoming draft. What don't you like about the last draft?
     
    cmoak1982 likes this.
  10. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,704
    Likes Received:
    8,364
    I don't know for sure.

    I'm hoping for McDaniels.

    Hiring a 65 yr old guy tell you Caserio hired a placeholder.
     
  11. Sooty

    Sooty Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2007
    Messages:
    2,197
    Likes Received:
    2,117
    The big proponent of Tim Tebow?

     
  12. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Methinks you are way overrating all of these guys I bet 3/4 of them will not in the NFL in 3 years, but hey we can dream.

    The caveats you have for Davis is astonishing and just because he sucked less than the other guys should not make him a starting level QB.
     
    mario_v likes this.
  13. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
     
  14. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
    There are big league throws in that video. Big league legs, the ability to throw off platform. Only a handful of QBs in the league can make some of those arm only throws.

    Still don’t get why some of you dudes hate him so much. Is it because he’s not a sexual assailant?
     
    raining threes likes this.
  15. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853

    Takes a lot more than a handful of big league throws to be an average NFL QB, not saying this guy can't, but it's way too early to be counting your chickens.

    The league is littered with QB's who make some big time throws.

    Mitch Trubisky says hello.
     
    Sooty likes this.
  16. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
    First, no the league isn’t. Second, no one is counting chickens, you’re saying he can’t be before he’s even given the chance.
    Some of those throws are elite, he’s earned the chance to see what he’s got
     
    raining threes likes this.
  17. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Usually the guy who they want to replace the guy with is already under terms and in the corporate world you don't hire a CEO just to place hold until you find the right guy.

    When a coach or a GM gets interviewed they usually have names of guys who they want to hire and the staffs they would also put in place, so Culley must have been on Casserio's short list or that means he is out here just free wheeling.

    I thought you knew was that no competent corporate person who is in charge of hiring upper level management is hiring a place holder for a position that effects his job and the same thing happens in the NFL, right now in a normal organization that is a huge red flag against the GM.

    Now maybe they end up getting a great coach but right now there is no Culley replacement so they out here just hoping the guy will be available to them.

    But hey keep your head in the clouds if that makes you feel better.
     
  18. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Yes, the league is I can name 5 off the top of my head

    Trubisky
    Mariotta
    Bortles
    Lynch
    Wentz
     
  19. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
    Takes a lot more than arm strength to make those throws.
    Also, Wentz doesn’t belong in same category as the other 4
     
    raining threes likes this.
  20. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,408
    Likes Received:
    19,964
    What some will go through to discredit our talented young rookie. Shameful
     
    raining threes and bigdaddy like this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now