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Fire RA?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mmesser, Jan 16, 2008.

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Fire RA now?

  1. Yes, time to try something different.

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  2. No, give him more time.

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  1. LCII

    LCII Member

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    Exactly. This group of players have proven time and time again they choke. Can't win against Mavs after being up 2-0, can't win against Utah after being up 2-0.... We need to shake something up, not the coach.

    Adelman has a very high win percentage as a coach, and has taken the Portland Trailblazers and the Kings deep in the playoffs.

    It's the players, not the coach.
     
  2. poprocks

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    Difference between Adleman and Van Gundy is that Adleman farms everything out to his assistants while Van Gundy wanted direct ownership of everything in terms of game preparedness and strategies. If this Rockets team is failing point the finger directly at Jack Sikma, Turner, Dunn, and Adleman Jr.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    Obviously give Adelman the season. If there is no positive sign of him getting the most out of the team, maybe you consider a change. Even then, the Rockets are almost obligated to bring him back unless he completely loses the respect of the players and the team goes into the tank for a long period of time. Firing a coach after one season is very questionable. Giving him less than one season is insane.

    I say this as someone who is so disappointed in Adelman I can't begin to describe it. My main reservation about cutting JVG was hiring an equal or better coach. I was sure we had someone like that in Adelman and felt no reservations in letting JVG go. I was wrong.
     
  4. rhester

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    I just want to win the championship.

    And no I don't believe the Rockets will ever win it with Adelman as coach.

    Other than that I am sure we will finish with a better record next season, but still no championship.

    And the season after that I believe Adelman might be on the way out.

    So sit back and enjoy the ride.
     
  5. magnetik

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    hopefully with tmac back we will have a little more confidence at finishing teams off in the 4th or at least spread the defense out. We already know what kind of team this is with both tmac and yao.

    I give RA a pass for this year.. they should learn to play in the system by the end of the season. (and new players should be accustomed to playing in the nba)
     
  6. pippendagimp

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    I'm not so happy with RA at this point, but I'd rather see changes in the roster first and then find a coach to fit the personell. Among the roster changes, I don't think there's going to be any way around TMac having to be moved even if it's for less value.
     
  7. meadowlark

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    It is simply amazing to read this Forum. One day everyone is heaping criticism on JVG and the next day folks wish they had him back. What if JVG actually did the best possible job with the talent he had? Is it possible that indeed he did better than anyone else could have? He actually had far less talent than this year's team and yet the cry was to throw him out. Fickle fans...but that characteric(throw the bums out) is seen in all facets of life. Throw them out without ever asking "is the person possibly doing a good(great) job given the situation they are in? "

    Now its fire RA. Give me a break. Most all people in the know say it takes a long time( at least a season) to learn his system. The team is over .500 with T-Mac out. The point guard on this team could not start for just about any Western conference team except maybe Minn. The starting power forward could not start for any Western conf team. Maybe, just maybe, with a new system being introduced, injuries, and lack of talent at key positions, RA is doing an adequate job. Maybe JVG was doing a superb job.

    It may have been a serious mistake to fire JVG, but lets dont make another one with the premature firing of RA. At least give him the full season. Based on his past performances, he certainly deserves that.

    Don't make another mistake by throwing the baby out with the bath water.
     
  8. ooliverb1

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    For me, he gave me enough evident in the 4th quarter to know that he is the wrong choice for this team.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    I'm not disputing whether he's the wrong coach or not, just whether the Rockets should fire him.
     
  10. blackbird

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    Disagree. JVG built this team in the last 4 years, clearly, he can get the max out of this team (most players are JVG's favorite). It takes time for Adelman to build his own team. Many of you just say how great the 52 wins is. Lets take a look.

    last season total: 52W/30L
    vs western teams: 28W/24L
    vs western playoff teams: 10W/16L
    vs eastern teams: 24W/6L

    Rox is the worst western conference playoff team, who can win in the east, but not west. JVG could be a good coach in the east, but not west. I don't know how good Adelman is, but I'm sure he is better than JVG :D .
     
  11. Yetti

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    Absolute Garbage!!!! :p
     
  12. Deckard

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    Fire Rafer Alston? Don't you guys think we might want to trade him instead??
     
  13. London'sBurning

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    He deserves a year before we consider making significant roster changes. He deserves to have his contract honored for its duration. He is a good coach and he does garner the respect of his players, just his approach is different and not immediately short term. Our players aren't going to be coddled by a tough minded coach, and its expected of them to perform well on their own accord. As a coach its his job to make those expectations set easier for them.

    You can argue that we simply don't have the personalities on this team that brings about leather tough skin, and that it was necessary for JVG to establish that, or you can go with RA's approach by taking off the training wheels so our guys can toughen up on their own. They've shown glimpses of it, but really more than anything, this team is showing that it doesn't know how to close out games. Even in wins when we have a sizable lead do we collapse and make it very winnable for the other team. All you can hope for is when McGrady arrives and is healthy that he'll make closing out games easier. The downside is in the playoffs, you're relying on a closer who hasn't gotten out of the first round.

    Either way, I don't think you can fault JVG or RA coaching for this teams incompetence. Our team consists of adults that need to own up to their own failures and not pass blame on personnel that does its best to make their on court performances as easy as possible. It's not like either coach can grab a remote control and play out there on the court for them. They gotta deliver on their own.
     
  14. CharlieMurphy

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    This team couldn't close out games the last few years under JVG and still can't this year under RA. It's the players, not the coach.
     
  15. superx

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    Man,you're a very very captious person,we gave JVG 4 years to get 52wins,please just give more time to RA,you can't call for too much in his first year.
    I still trust him.He will lead us to a higher level. :rolleyes:
    Fire RA???that's ridiculous,stop this stupid thought.
     
  16. superx

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    No,he is our best PG at present.We can't get back a better PG for this trade .
     
  17. denniscd

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    we should all be ashamed of ourselves...we flip flop more than the politicians
     
  18. superx

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    :D yea~comparing fire him,trade is a better choice.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    At least with JVG we had a winning team every year and we felt like we had a real shot, even with subpar talent.

    With Adelman it just seems kind of hopeless.
     
  20. ooliverb1

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    Great idea! Let's give this guy 4 more year. 4 more year! 4 more year!

    Oh wait, our window with Yao and TMac is not that long, is it? Whatever happens to the "It's time" slogan? Does anyone still remember that?
     

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