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Fire Mike D'Antoni

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BaiHua, May 10, 2019.

  1. YOLO

    YOLO Member

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    Toronto nor the Bucks have ever been as close to competing with GS ever. They've been working all these years to even reach the status of being in the conversation of an actual contendor. So once they fall short and not win a title in a few weeks, to be consistent the answer is to fire their head coaches once again right?
     
  2. Ramo$e

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    No....... something is wrong if you cant recognize a actual coach vs a mediocre coach. You all can claim he is a victim of circumstance that is just another excuse.

    "Getting on their ass" = holding players accountable

    But he doesnt. So between running the starters into the ground and poor substitution decisions.

    I know he doesn't like confrontation but Pringles has to have some type of fire to win.

    Im not saying he has to be fired. What im saying is..... I would not be suprised or disappointed if they did fire him.
     
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  3. YOLO

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    Ive already posted that I wouldn't be surprised if he's first domino to take the fall. someone has to and the easiest way is more times than not the coach. that in no way means that's automatically the correct move though, especially considering the unknown of who comes in

    the whole thing here is what happens as a result.
     
  4. Ramo$e

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    Idk Bucks are looking good with Giannis...Giannis can and will smother Kd if they were to make it.

    But to answer your question. No because they didnt decline. They improved. Last was the year for optimism. It didn't work.
     
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  5. YOLO

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    bucks aren't winning a championship

    yeah they improved because they have yet to reach that status. bucks never won a playoff series ever and toronto has been a flop before they got kawhi. now that they are somewhat in the conversation, what then once the inevitable happens. Neither of them are beating GS. but you're welcome to think they will.

    you're saying no? why? thats not consistent with the mda logic. bucks/toronto didn't beat gs. their coach should be fired if you're going to be consistent
     
  6. Ramo$e

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    True...
    What who care about being consistant about firing coaches? You going a bit overboard trying to break down MDA logic. When in fact MDA sucks he couldnt cut it in the NBA so he went overseas where there was less trash talk and less confrontation. He's a nice guy, but havent you heard nice guys finish last? At this rate I hate to say it but Bucks will win one before we do with MDA if we keep "trying to figure it out". You're welcome to believe not if you want.
     
  7. YOLO

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    who cares about being consistent? well for one that actually helps with logic that makes sense if you want people to take things seriously.

    yeah keep dreaming about the bucks. let them catch up to what hes got as a coach atleast first. 2 series wins for their first time in history is a pretty cute start though. Beating a detroit team without blake who are terrible even with him and a broken boston team is mighty impressive I must say
     
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    If you did a pie graph with all the reasons why The Rockets haven’t won a title in the 3 years of MDA the only piece you would be able to see is the gigantic chunk labeled The Warriors are better than everyone. There would be some very tiny slivers of the pie that attributed, but in the big picture rather meaningless.
     
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  9. Ramo$e

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    Dude stop. I care about logical stuff that matters. Theres is no MDA logic. He sucks at intense situations. He looked just as confused as the players out there. Thats not a good sign. What are you so worried about? We have the beard....so you are saying we suck without MDA? What kind of logic is that? Lol
     
  10. YOLO

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    of course you don't care about logic because you're inconsistent

    we have the beard? before mda came here, harden did what exactly?

    so apparently bringing in some other unknown coach automatically means the rockets get better. apparently that's some kind of lol concept to you. that's pretty odd
     
  11. Ramo$e

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    Anbody but MDA....ive been pretty consistent the last 4 yrs saying we shouldn't have hired him.

    Im just not one of the MDA logic things you are referring to or whatever. You must be confused. MDA have only been as good as his players which are always all-stars. What do we need pringles for then? I enjoyed having him. Cheered for him. It was a valiant effort. Dont be scared of change. You Only Live Once right? Lol

    Seasons change. So do coaches. I dont care who they bring in. Im just tired of MDA. Im not Morey or Tilman so i dont have to have a solution. Your answer isnt much of a solution either. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing thinking its going to work.

    I didnt start this thread just gave an honest opinion. They very well may not fire him. So no need to get all bent out of shape demanding answers and solutions.
     
  12. YOLO

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    i never said i was providing an answer or solution. the whole thing from the beginning is what I'm trying to find out. that's the whole point to begin with. I'm not one to get on board with something that provides no reasonable alternative. Especially when all the responses are just based on pure for the sake of doing so.

    So if "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing thinking its going to work" why bother keeping James Harden then
     
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    Waiting for them to decline is not my point.
    OF COURSE we'd like to find a way to conquer them. EVERY team would, right?

    But the point is (AGAIN): The Rockets over the past couple of years have given the best
    fight to arguably 'the best team ever assembled'. So we're asking that the Rockets become
    'the BETTER team ever assembled'. Is THAT what we think we have?
    Is our team the BEST except for our coach? I would say nay.

    And, as for being without Boogie and Durant, seems I recall that very team
    winning an NBA record 73 games just a few short years ago.

    Even WITHOUT those 2, you have 3 perennial All-Stars and a VERY close knit team
    that has played championship level for almost 5 years.

    We have ONE All-Star, arguably 2 in CP (declining).
    You are asking a lot of a coach to overcome that sort of talent imbalance.

    So who is this savior waiting in the wings?
     
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    just so i'm clear, you are maintaining that D'Antoni did the best with the roster we had to work with, and that Golden State is simply just too stacked. If so, i take your point. But also consider how we under-performed those last two games, killing our chances to steal a 7th game at the Oracle. When it mattered the most, we didn't play well and i have to think some of that is on the coach.
     
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    Once in a generation talent? Where will we find a another Harden? There is bunch mediocre coaches. Thibs is available?
     
  16. YOLO

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    pretty sure if you did a search on thibs you wouldn't find many nice things to read and one of your posts was about running players into the ground. guess you're not that familiar with him
     
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    It's simple. Leslie Alexander was the one who thought the world of MDA and his 7 sec run and gun system.

    Alexander canned JVG just for an more up tempo game, which was well documented.

    Turns out MDA deferred to Morey and Harden implementing a totally different system.

    I think Morey is the constant guy telling Fertitta to keep MDA around but he is the owner, he can do whatever he wants.

    Just a matter of time till he explodes......I hope it's not during the season as the McHale fiasco didn't bear any fruits.

    Offseason is the best time to do such a thing because there is enough time to interview other guys.

    If you missed out on the perfect timing, you may very well keep him another year.

    No, it's not the fan's job, our job, to come up with alternatives.

    It's the Front Office's. Fair enough, if they think nothing is wrong. We have to live with it.
     
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    Im very familiar. I know if someone isn't producing he'll sub.
     
  19. YOLO

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    well that's false when he plays his "stars" all the minutes they can handle. might want to do your research a bit more on thibs rotations. take notice how their minutes are higher under his tenure. that's a start

    this is exactly what im referring to. just posting blindly and expecting people to just be on board with it just because.
     
  20. JayAllJay

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    u seem to be a great gm...the rox should have chosen you rather than morey. you are so much more qualified especially with genius comments/ideas like this one.
     

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