so what exactly is your solution, assuming the rockets get rid of mda? what coach is coming in that checks all the boxes you're looking for that solves this teams issues? honest question
Ok...I give him one more year or at least half of a season to not come out losing or 50/50. Im not saying I have all the answers my guy but I promise you MD is not the answer..... I realized that last year when we got beat game 7. I didnt watch every game this year like I used to because I already knew. Thats why I can look at this objectively and be honest. We didn't get outplayed so much as we were out coached for the second year in a row..... I dont even know what coaches are available.
the rockets were not going to beat GS without cp3. that's not on mda at all. it was more wishful thinking. but people are going to believe what they want to. if that was your tipping point then so be it and this is the thing @Remlap has been posting about. he's posted a ton of information here and everyone's response thus far is basically just get rid of him period, without an ounce of a credible solution that clearly is worth the shot of an actual improvement. I don't think anyone here believes hes the greatest coach but dont expect us to just jump on board without an actual reasonable solution
Will you at least admit that MDA's playoff history, our underperformance in the semi-final round, as well as the chance Jeff Biz D actually retires necessitates that we at least consider going in a different coaching direction?
If MD is not the solution what are you waiting for? A Cinderella story? That chance went out the window last year. Even if I had a viable solution its not like Morey's going to do it. I see you have that same mentality for letting him figure it out. I want to shut the media and critics up more than anybody but you have to WIN to do that and WIN when it COUNTS there are no moral victories hear. I agree with Tilman you step on their neck.
what's he need to figure out? this isn't some lottery team that continues to just be bad every single year.if cp3 doesn't get hurt a year ago, there's a extremely likelihood houston has a ship right now. apparently thats mda fault and everything the rockets have become to this point is just irrelevant so does harden not need to figure out he needs to learn how to close out games? is that something that's on mda? so does capela not need to figure out how to back up self done trash talk? so that's on mda? so does cp3 need to know he needs to be better in more games? that's on mda as well this all goes back to the classic take. the coach is the easiest scapegoat when a team loses. when they win, all the credit just goes to the players. nvm all the circumstances and what actually went on.
Perhaps. But when the refs/league admittedly fudge game 1 away from you and your team that's not on the coach. Could have made a BIG difference in the outcome of this series. D'Antoni's Suns took Pop's 'prime' Spurs to 6 games and went toe to toe until Steve Nash got clocked in the head and shoved into the scorers' table. Pops had the 'better' team, but they were knotted up 2-2. MDA has gotten his team to the dances but because he's always the bridesmaid, never the bride, he gets dumped on. VERY FEW coaches EVER get the ring. I just think there are worse coaches out there and we'd better think twice about replacing a coach who has the 2nd best record in the NBA over the past few years Since D'Antoni came on board, he has only 9 LESS WINS than Steve Kerr and the Warriors. AND WE ARE DEMANDING HIS HEAD? If the Warriors (as we currently know them) were not in existence, MDA likely would have hoisted 2 championship banners already. I believe he is a victim of bad timing. Just wrong era. Living in shadow of a juggernaut
Yes it is on MDA....he has to actually coach lol.....he has to motivate and remind them. Get on their ass when needed. Thats what a coach is. A coach makes chess like adjustments according to the situation. That were our difference in opinion is. I want a real coach. Lol
Absolutely. You would think that multimillionaire athletes would know how to seize the moment, and I'm kinda surprised CP3 didn't get guys up for the task, but ultimately it's on the coach to shake them up from their stupor. 100%.
what in the world is "getting on their ass" gonna do. some of yall really need a reality check Im not going to be surprised if mda gets canned because again the coach is the easiest scapegoat. And we'll be right back here once again seeing all the b****ing going on about why so and so got hired and how the rockets should of just kept mda
Are you willing to admit that if the Warriors weren't the Warriors that we would have at least gone to the Finals, or perhaps already WON a championship? How many other teams have been able to take them down the past 4 years? 1 team. That's LeBron + Kyrie + Kevin Love. 1 team in 4 years. Does that somehow make our coach a bad coach? So, would you propose that 28 other teams fire their coaches too? I've already heard Kelvin Sampson's name mentioned. LOL He's never even coached an NBA game. But somehow he's going to get us ALL THE WAY?
Here's an interesting question: How many think that Pop's 'prime time' Spurs could have taken down today's Warriors team?
No the lack of coaching makes our coach a mediocre coach. Bad situational recognition makes our coach 2nd best. Hooray for us
"Getting on their ass" will motivate them to play better. I agree with Stephen A. that D'Antoni doesn't have that kind of competitive fire in him. You see Pop after a Spurs loss and he'll look like he's ready to tear someone's head off when he speaks to the media. He'll publicly call out his players and refer to them as soft. Hell, he did that after a game his team won this season(I believe the opponent was Phoenix). D'Antoni never does this even after inexcusable losses like the one at home to the Pelicans where they were sitting nearly all their guys.
does it? how many times have we seen players trying to fire up and get into some kind of disagreement with harden and his body language is basically stfu. How did it work for McHale trying to get on their ass and hold guys accountable. some of yall are stuck on some notion that everyone is just supposed to respond this and that way. nah it doesn't work like that. "getting on their ass" is probably the most basic basic thing you can say and in no way some judgement of whether or not a coach is warranted to be fired. why is pop some standard like hes just all over the place. There's only one Pop. there isn't another coach like him. If you have to compare MDA to POP then, hes obviously doing something right
I agree with a lot you said - its hard to find a better coach than MDA, but I do think its time to move on from MDA personally. I feel most coaches have a 3-4 year life span with a team if they do not win a ring. It sucks and probably not fair to the coach but that tends to be the reality of the league. That being said to me I see a lot of the same, self-inflicted mistakes that have plagued these Rockets that have followed a lot of the MDA teams. Short rotations, lack of adjustments, team not being as focused as they should. When playing teams as good as the Spurs and Warriors the game is definitely won on the margins. These are always fluid and require adjustments on the fly and thats something MDA has not been able to do. Doc Rivers made better adjustments when playing the Warriors than MDA did. I am not a huge fan of his short rotations in the playoffs. When KD went down and then in game 6 the Rockets could not defend the Steph/Draymond pick and roll at all. And there is literally 2 years+ worth of footage on how to try to best defend this and yet they looked puzzled. These are serious issues and point to lack of preparation. Coach Wooden would say "Failing to prepare is preparing to fail" and that is absolutely true. You do not need a vet coach or one that has rings to have your team prepared. JVG's Rockets team would always be prepared but had a definite talent disadvantage. I would say Rick Adeleman's teams were the same. Mchale's teams were less prepared and it showed as well, but there was definitely a lot of roster churn and changes during his tenure here. He was a horrible coach when it came to adjustments as well. Adeleman probably was the best coach the Rockets had when it came to being good to really good on all facets of the coaching game in the last 15 years. His teams though were just not the most talented (primarily due to injuries, that 09 team if healthy was stacked) Here is my biggest takeaway though: If the Rockets stay with MDA then for them to advance to the finals and win it they will need a significant talent upgrade to overcome the coaching deficiencies. Right now I do not believe the Rockets are in the position financially or have the assets to make such a significant leap in talent. Look I really do not think Kerr is that great of a coach but he has had a huge advantage when it comes to his team's talent. I mean Luke Walton "coached" the Warriors to a 24-0 record to start the season. Kerr though has made the necessary adjustments in this years playoffs though to help his team win in both the LAC and Houston series and credit to him. He isn't so rigid in his coaching style. If the Rockets do get a new coach I also do not think a "name" coach is needed. I think an assistant coach who is well rounded could do wonders. 30 years ago Phil Jackson was just an assistant coach to Doug Collins. Poppovich may have been still coaching out in Pomona or had a lower level front office job with the Spurs. They became great coaches because they inherited talented teams. I think next season could be a similar situation where a smart assistant/young coach inherits a talented team and makes a difference. A new coach will also be more willing to embrace the more analytic/pace&space style of the league today.
I dunno about the first time around But after a whole additional year to plan and then having KD go down , yes they definitely could have taken them down
i don't understand. the warriors are the warriors. we couldn't beat the Durantless and Boogieless warriors. That may be next year's warriors, and they still beat us. Also, there are plenty of Western Conference teams that are only getting better ...like Denver. So i'm not sure what your argument is. That the warriors are really good and we should just stay the course and wait till they are less good? Tucker is 35. CP3 is 34 and declining. MDA is ...not sure how hold. I don't think waiting till Golden State starts sucking is a good strategy.
If all the Rockets do is sit back and wait for the Warriors to decline, they're not gonna win a title. Boston sat back and assumed with LeBron gone and their team healthier, they'd steamroll through the East. Look how that panned out. Meanwhile Toronto improved their roster and replaced their head coach. So did Milwaukee. Now they're playing for the Eastern Conference crown. I get that our situation is different from the Raptors and Bucks given our cap limitations, but the point remains that Morey and Tillman need to focus less on the Warriors and more on how to fix this team's deficiencies which were there against a lot of opponents this season. We didn't just struggle to rebound against Golden State. We didn't just come out lackadaisical against them. And we sure as hell lost games we should've won against a wide range of teams, including some pretty bad ones.
