Longtimefan, I just have one thing to say to those guys. HOW YE LIKE ME NAH!! HOW. DO. YOU. LIKE. ME. NOW. HOW YE LIKE ME NAH!
My issues with JVG are more about personality and development of personnel than coaching. He is smart and he can coach with the best of them. I worry about his sour attitude, negativity, etc. I am still not convinced he is the best fit for Houston, but great win tonight against the Mavs. Remember, I was excited about his coming here, but doubts have surfaced. Time will tell. The Nets game will tell alot about where this team is. (for right now, seventh in the West!)
To be fair I never accepted OMR personal 100 bet, and edc and Gucci did not bet. but still... how ya like meh nah!
It works both ways... Rudy's teams in his last 4 years had great chemistry, but didn't win much... and were mentally weak when it came to wanting it. (a lot of the reason why they flat-out COLLAPSED once Rudy went down... they were too emotionally invested). This team is developing its chemistry... with or without JVG being a nice guy. T-Mac is giving some love... tough love... which is more important because it breeds winning. Jordan never "loved" anybody if they lost, neither did Bird or Magic. The best way to breed chemistry is if they win... and once they get winning, JVG's approach will help develop the killer instinct that this team hasn't seen since the 1995 playoffs... that team wanted to rip your heart out no matter who you were.
Ummm, no, he isn't. "(On offense) I've gone back to doing what I've always done." -- Tracy McGrady. He gets some props for not cracking the whip, but (as demonstrated by his cracks to the media), he doesn't seem particularly comfortable with the offensive ball demonstrated of late.
I don't know man. It use to be about the money with me, but now days, it's more about the passion of the game. You feel me dawg?
he doesn't?? where are you getting that?? he looks quite comfortable to me. you think he WANTS his team to suck on the offensive end of the basket?? if so, why go out and get barry and wesley?? ?
Welcome, MadMax Around here, anything positive is not credited to JVG. These are just the rules. If the offense is averaging 104 PPG in the last 13 games, JVG has no influence on it. It is simply the players revolting against his "terrible offensive system" and doing whatever they feel like. JVG is uncomfortable with scoring so many points, he is to blame. PS: Don't bother with logic here. Just think of a name to go after "Jeff Van" and you can be funny and cool.
He wants the ball to go in the basket, but scoring is not a priority. He WANTS slow-down, low posession basketball. JVG has said that, repeatedly. "Efficiency" (points per posession) is also something he has mentioned. That means making the shots, but it doesn't mean high scores. Is that "sucking" on the offensive end? Ask him.
i don't think he has any problem with this team scoring as they are right now..it's equated to winning, and that's ALLLL JVG cares about. he went out...made some moves...made some changes...the team is winning. credit whomever you want to for that. but you can't, on one hand, blame the coach when you lose..and then give him no credit when you win. that's ridiculous.
perhaps i misunderstood...sounded to me like you were saying the only reason the team was winning was because they were ignoring their coach. if you see it that way, i have a hard time understanding giving "props" for that.
You make a good point. If they play much like they did last night they will win many more than they lose.They seriously wanted to beat Dallas. TMac had that "Larry Bird Assassin" look.
To say you were giving him credit is just pure BS. You credited Tmac for what you believe as going away from Van Gundy's teachings, not Van Gundy for adapting. It's one thing to think something and argue for it, and another to not be able to change your stance when there is a noticeable change. 104 PPG is a noticeable change, open your eyes. It's JVG.
Van Gundy gets credit for opening HIS eyes, and letting T-Mac play. I don't believe Van Gundy has adapted in any fundamental way. When asked, JVG still says he wants to play low-posession basketball, and sneers or replies sarcastically when asked about the change.
Long Time, I've been against JVG since he arrived in Houston. I never thought he was the man for the job, but winning is a cure all and if the team continues to play like it has the last couple of weeks (let's try to forget about LA) then I'll give him a chance. IMO I never thought that he would adapt his coaching style and that was the main reason that I disliked him, but I think he has reevaluated his system and is changing his strategy which I think is a sign of a good coach.
JVG is still the head coach. JVG could bring down the whip, bench T-Mac, and say "pass the ball and use up all the shot clock or else." He is not doing that, and gets props for not handcuffing one of the league's leading scorers.
